1.0 vs ARR Areas - A Visual Comparison

[Mikita]

There was a lot of empty and copy-pasting in 1.0 but one thing I still prefer about the maps is the sense of scale. The sense of scale and distance was perfect.

Well, except the shroud. That has always sucked and I prefer ARR shroud.

I am normally a very calm individual, the peacemaker in a group who tries to get folks to get along, etc. "Rage" is not a thing I usually do.

But the 1.x Black Shroud actually did the near-impossible and inspired the flames of fury in me after I spent an entire evening trying to get across it, getting lost, dying, and so on—and thus utterly failed to meet up with some friends. Not that their luck was much better than mine.

I didn't like running through the old Black Shroud either, or trying to run past the ants in eastern Thanalan without getting aggro, or through the narrow cliff passages trying to get to Broken Water as a base for the fight with Ifrit.
But those old places did inspire awe, wonder, and sometimes fear or anger.

The overworld in 1.0 was a much bigger part of the game than it is now. I don't think I would want to go back, so I'll just savor the nostalgia.

[Mikita]

I am still pissed that the team got rid of letting players buy items off of other players anywhere since it not only made my shopping alot easier but it also gave me a reason to socialize with other players too. I even use to have a list of players I knew on my server that always sold certain items I needed and would seek them out in the world to buy from them directly.

This is what Yoshida took from us. He stolen the games mmo aspect in favor for making it more like a single player game.

I think Tanaka, the old producer, intentionally made things difficult to force people to work together in hopes of creating a community.

Like you, I got to know who could make what items I needed. It was really hard to be an omni-crafter and so it helped to know who had what and befriend them.
I actually got to know my best friend, whom I still play with today, because she was a high level miner and I chased after her to buy some colorant materials from her personal bazaar.

Of course a lot of people ended up hating those design decisions and the rest is history.

[znushu]

Of course a lot of people ended up hating those design decisions and the rest is history.

That's sadly true as the demographic the game caters to today doesn't resemble the one that it catered too during the 1.0 era.
Both were catering to different types of players and while not every mmo needs to cater to everyone. I still find it sad that my slow paced classical ff styled mmo is now largely restricted to ff11 still, I was one of the few (outside of rokien) that was looking forward to them possibly bringing back that version with a separate product or something which I honestly doubt in my old age.

I guess I can always just bite my tongue and keep silent on my old school mmo loving takes until Pantheon Rise of the Fallen releases and just continue to enjoy modern ffxiv as the single player mmo it is.

[DiaDeem]

That's sadly true as the demographic the game caters to today doesn't resemble the one that it catered too during the 1.0 era.
Both were catering to different types of players and while not every mmo needs to cater to everyone. I still find it sad that my slow paced classical ff styled mmo is now largely restricted to ff11 still, I was one of the few (outside of rokien) that was looking forward to them possibly bringing back that version with a separate product or something which I honestly doubt in my old age.

I guess I can always just bite my tongue and keep silent on my old school mmo loving takes until Pantheon Rise of the Fallen releases and just continue to enjoy modern ffxiv as the single player mmo it is.

I think Tanaka, the old producer, intentionally made things difficult to force people to work together in hopes of creating a community.

Like you, I got to know who could make what items I needed. It was really hard to be an omni-crafter and so it helped to know who had what and befriend them.
I actually got to know my best friend, whom I still play with today, because she was a high level miner and I chased after her to buy some colorant materials from her personal bazaar.

Of course a lot of people ended up hating those design decisions and the rest is history.

Any place in particular either of you would like to revisit with a few screenies? I'll gladly post a couple.

[znushu]

Any place in particular either of you would like to revisit with a few screenies? I'll gladly post a couple.

all I want is a screengrab from one my favorite place in the old version of game... black shrouds hawthrone hut.

[NekoMataMata]

Feeling really nostalgic for things I've never experienced.

[DiaDeem]

all I want is a screengrab from one my favorite place in the old version of game... black shrouds hawthrone hut.

1.0




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*Edit: ARR




These aren't really comparable, but since I've been posting both versions in all my posts so far, just decided to add the ARR screenies for consistency.

Feeling really nostalgic for things I've never experienced.

I started playing ARR on PS3 in September 201 and I never got to play 1.0 but I'm just fascinated by the history of the game and 1.0 is like an archeological site for me. Remnants of a Realm and Secrets of a Realm by Speakers of Hydaelyn is probably the best resource out there for this kind of thing honestly.

[Packetdancer]

Feeling really nostalgic for things I've never experienced.

Honestly, that's probably the best option here; you get all of the fun of looking back and going "Huh, that sounds cool in theory!" without having had to actually experience all the downsides.

I mean, it's easy to be vaguely nostalgic about some of it now, from a safe distance (e.g. a decade of linear time), sure. But I am a decade older than I was then, with these annoying things called, like, "job responsibilities" and "adult life" and whatnot. And while I deeply enjoy fighting with content, I suspect I have a lot less patience now for fighting with the game itself in order to actually get to the content.

So I don't think you could pay me to return to 1.x.

Especially not if you dropped me in the Shroud when I got there.

(...that said, I do actually kind of miss the threat that the overworld could present. Which is probably why I actually enjoy Eureka. So maybe I haven't entirely learned my lesson...)

[Shougun]

The 1.0 ascians stood out to me, and it was fun checking all the npc shadows because back then in lore they didn't have them.

Also those treants that sucker punched you into next firesday, level 99 or whatever lol. Due to the maze terrain design and their size, it was an intense space.

Less graphic related but there were a lot of unique npc interactions in 1.0, I've seen a few in Endwalker but my memory tells me way more existed back then. Like snurbles could heal you. Different aggro types..

Or the incapacitation system, where your skills targeted specific body parts and you could break horns and stuff.. very early you could equip skills from other classes and be a thaumaturge tank XD, wild times. Nothing like the good ol days when it took 5 seconds to open your character sheet lol.

[CidHeiral]

I understand it was a nightmare to navigate but 1.0 Black Shroud certainly feels much more like a foreboding ancient forest than the current version which is for the most part pretty open. I always feel so disconnected from Gridania story bits when they say something like "don't get lost in the dangerous dense woods!" then I go to Central Shroud and I'm like "WHAT WOODS?"