FYI YoshiP did an interview on Famitsu re 6.2

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LFG FATES Z3, and LFG NM Train and "Is Pazuzu up" were definitely prime examples of community.

"Veterans only, please know the fight, know the mechanics, have bis, barse runs, discord required" whilst setting the P1S/P2S to 600 ilevel, truly prime examples of community.

Or maybe when someone who's like done like, P2S once joining clear parties and then wiping on easy mechanics. Or when people join fresh prog parties expecting clears and then getting mad with "tyfp" and dipping when there's 2-4 wipes? Also prime examples of community lol.

Don't get your point here really. Eureka is still at least active and people are good with helping spawn fates/BA runs, even if BA does require discord due to how difficult it is to set up. People there even like helping newcomers and you can easily get onto a fate train. There are times when you can even get help on leveling. What else are people going to do in Eureka lmao, afk dance like its Limsa?

My point is that people largely inflate the sense of community that it actually brings or incentivizes. BA and DR/DRN have largely taken the course of action, most notably in the case of the former with the tedium of setting up a run. Equally with DRN with the limitations and annoyance. I've obtained nigh on every relic and I can easily say that the sense of community (in the truest sense) is very.. Basic, largely with people only gathering for the sake of a mutual goal rather than actual communication.

The level and sense of community I've had from farming relics in ShB and EW has really been no more substantial than what I would otherwise get farming Atma, or even when farming Luminous Crystals in HW. That's my point.

Hit the nanny post limit, but wanted to say that I agree with Theo here in that you've been unlucky in getting quiet instances. Plenty of times I've been in Bozja/Eureka where there was light convo and chatter; I mean of course plenty of people just kind of want to focus since it is a long, hardy grind to get relics/lockboxes/logograms/ect. Idk, I've always found a sense of community that people are getting together to complete a goal. I wouldn't say I've made like long lasting friendships or anything, but I've definitely have had a lot of cooperation, funny convos, given/giving advice/help in between the fate spawning and grinding. People do the same kind of stuff of light conversations and being chatty in the Diadem too and it's not like it's thrilling group content.