Thread: FYI YoshiP did an interview on Famitsu re 6.2

Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

The actual worry some part is that they said they want the relic system to be like ARR/HW, and we all know how terrible ARR relic grind was..

The HW relic grind however is one of the best imo. You basically progressed your relic by just playing the game, almost anything you'd normally do anyway helped with progress.

Originally Posted by Mika_Zahard

The actual worry some part is that they said they want the relic system to be like ARR/HW, and we all know how terrible ARR relic grind was..

If they can juggle the length with the diversity of what ARR had you engaging in, content-wise, then it will be a good relic I think

I'll take the older style relic questlines over the messes that happened with 47 other people. I'm sure the variant dungeon(s) will be part of the mix and maybe the harder versions will grant more of the reward.

As a little titbit, and something that has actually largely been on my mind. I can't say I'm overly excited about the developers feeling the need to be over-glorified in flashy effects, I think, or have from experience found that they have struggled with maintaining the balance between visually appealing/flashy, and something that would outright be an accessibility concern. I just wonder if they consider that too flashy can result in the same issues they are trying to avoid with the visuals and visibility.

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Based on feedback from the first tier that some fights [ie Phonix] were hard to see, they've paid more attention to the visuals and visibility this time. He also implies the new tier will be flashier since some felt the last one was a bit plain compared to Eden

Originally Posted by Kaurhz

As a little titbit, and something that has actually largely been on my mind. I can't say I'm overly excited about the developers feeling the need to be over-glorified in flashy effects, I think, or have from experience found that they have struggled with maintaining the balance between visually appealing/flashy, and something that would outright be an accessibility concern. I just wonder if they consider that too flashy can result in the same issues they are trying to avoid with the visuals and visibility.

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dw, you don't have to worry about orange on orange on orange (maybe). instead have fun trying to see mechanics when rdm lb is going off in your face all the time

A lot of people seem to be missing Exploratory zones, but the reality is they all just ended up being FATE trains, and the things you're missing the most are the dungeons that those zones led to, such as BA or DR. I would guess for most of you the new variant dungeons will fulfill your want, although I am a little disappointed we are getting yet another set of "whatever actions" to go along with it. Either design content our jobs can do or design the jobs to do all the content, quit giving us all these extra actions to farm to fill in the gap where game design has failed.

Originally Posted by SieyaM

A lot of people seem to be missing Exploratory zones, but the reality is they all just ended up being FATE trains, and the things you're missing the most are the dungeons that those zones led to, such as BA or DR. I would guess for most of you the new variant dungeons will fulfill your want, although I am a little disappointed we are getting yet another set of "whatever actions" to go along with it. Either design content our jobs can do or design the jobs to do all the content, quit giving us all these extra actions to farm to fill in the gap where game design has failed.

I'd argue that SE tried it out first with Eureka (after Diadem had exactly 2 people playing it ), landed on a solid example and then perfected the fate system in Eureka. But on both, it's clear there's room for so much more.

It's called Exploratory Zone for a reason, we could have more exploration games in there. The core mechanic just needed to be nailed; and now that they have, no need to discard it just because "it's just gonna be more of the same". Add originality and variety to it. Bunny fates were a good start. We could add actual maps as well. Stuff like sidegames and whatnot.

I'm disappointed they're removing them because they were typically just far enough removed enough from the existing content to be fun when I wanted to do something different.

Yes, there are issues with the design post expansion, but that doesn't mean I wanted them completely abandoned. The problems seem entirely solvable. Like a lot of the issues in this game, SE doesn't seem to care to focus on solving problems for existing content or systems. Just keep making new stuff, I guess.

Originally Posted by VelKallor

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