Rescue is Griefing

[HyoMinPark]

And if Rescue is needet, then hey why not every Job get that Spell? Would be just fair.

That’s…not how utility works…

Just because something is needed doesn’t mean every job needs to have access to it. Healers having it makes the most sense, given how their primary responsibility is keeping people alive. Why would a melee DPS need that? Or a physical ranged? Or a caster? Or a tank?

It’s a niche ability. It’s not *needed* in the sense that it’s *required*—but it does have some very effective uses. Don’t blame the tool because of how some players use it.

[Aneshda]

That’s…not how utility works…

Just because something is needed doesn’t mean every job needs to have access to it. Healers having it makes the most sense, given how their primary responsibility is keeping people alive. Why would a melee DPS need that? Or a physical ranged? Or a caster? Or a tank?

It’s a niche ability. It’s not *needed* in the sense that it’s *required*—but it does have some very effective uses. Don’t blame the tool because of how some players use it.

Like I said, then let us choose if we want to be rescued or not. A simple thing under options.

[MilkieTea]

Like I said, then let us choose if we want to be rescued or not. A simple thing under options.

Then I take it you don't want to be rezzed then either? :P Fine, just like Seredeelfer said... our mana is best used to DPS than rez someone who chooses to die

[HyoMinPark]

Like I said, then let us choose if we want to be rescued or not. A simple thing under options.

That’s fine. As long as those who choose not to be Rescued do not start blaming the healers when they die or aren’t healed because they’re too far away. Most of my Rescues are to pull people into range of my healing because they want to hang out in Narnia. If you choose to be there and choose to not get healed or Rescued into healing range, please accept responsibility for that. I get tired of being blamed for the BLM or the BRD not getting healed when they’re too far away and miss all of my AOE heals. That isn’t a healer problem.

[BaconBits]

Imagine not being able to read your healer's mind and popping Surecast/Arm's Length right before they can slam their little fingers on the Rescue button



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[Bacent]

Like I said, then let us choose if we want to be rescued or not. A simple thing under options.

Yes, make options to disable part of someone's kit.

How about people just do the magic C word and COMMUNICATE??????

It's not hard to use your words in a non aggressive way. I'm not doing that right now cause people act like it can only be used wrong.

But people just wanna go 'wah remove it because I might have over reacted to someone using it on me and trying to help'.

Edit: I typed this out earlier and forgot to hit post when I went to get groceries. Kweheh.

[Aneshda]

Yes, make options to disable part of someone's kit.

How about people just do the magic C word and COMMUNICATE??????

It's not hard to use your words in a non aggressive way. I'm not doing that right now cause people act like it can only be used wrong.

But people just wanna go 'wah remove it because I might have over reacted to someone using it on me and trying to help'.

Edit: I typed this out earlier and forgot to hit post when I went to get groceries. Kweheh.

I had never a good Rescue, 99% moved my Char into AOE's so that I died. Even if I said at the beginning of a Trial, Raid, Alliance, Dungeon, that I don't want to be Rescued, then Healers do it to 100% on purpose just to mess you up. At this point communication is useless. Why not give Players the ability to disable Rescue?

[Sebazy]

Yeah, rescuing out of the LB3 animation lock is imo the most common decent usage of the ability now.

Personally I've fat fingered it literally once in a dungeon and promptly apologised for it, outside of getting pulled through the middle in Suzaku it's really not that big a deal and outside of friends trolling each other to make farms more fun, I rarely see it getting abused. IMHO you're much more likely to get cleaved because of an oblivious/troll tank than you are get rescued and actually killed because of it.

And frankly, in 99% of content, who even cares if you do get killed, is that that big of a deal? Go look up the sort of clean up operations that used to be required to recover an old Everquest Planes or Vex Thal wipe. That's a death that's a big deal. FFXIV's 'death penalty' is an absolute joke by comparison. A bit like this thread.

[Bacent]

I had never a good Rescue, 99% moved my Char into AOE's so that I died. Even if I said at the beginning of a Trial, Raid, Alliance, Dungeon, that I don't want to be Rescued, then Healers do it to 100% on purpose just to mess you up. At this point communication is useless. Why not give Players the ability to disable Rescue?

'I've never had a good one so make it where I can turn it off because that makes all of them bad'.

Communication isn't useless. If you communicate and they go out of your way to bother you with it. Report them and move on. Sorry you had to deal with it.

Sounds like some assumptions happening here though with your 'numbers' you're giving. 'Never had a good rescue 99% moved me into an AoE'. What about the 1% you're not talking about, or are you just saying 99% to make it look like you're not grouping everyone up together? Then you talk about 'healers doing it 100% of the time just to mess you up when you communicate.' You make me have a hard time believing this.


Write their names down and just keep an eye out for them. If it keeps happening with the same people and you've been reporting it, it counts as multiple offenses on them.

Wanting a 'toggle' to make a skill 100% useless is gonna piss off people who actually use it in GOOD ways. I use it in GOOD ways when I'm not goofing around with my fiance and friends.



Also if you want to complain about this. I'll do the opposite kind.

I'm upset that healers DONT try to kill me when I'm asking them to do so, and even offering gil to do it when I'm just a DPS.

[Absurdity]

Just because something is needed doesn’t mean every job needs to have access to it. Healers having it makes the most sense, given how their primary responsibility is keeping people alive. Why would a melee DPS need that? Or a physical ranged? Or a caster? Or a tank?

Obviously so I can pull people who complain about rescue in front of the boss, right before the cleave buster. They already took away our ability to shirk annoying dps, give me a new tool to get them killed lol.