Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[CrownySuccubus]

But once again I think you’re unfairly focusing too much in the beginning of Cookingways statement and not the whole! “Making the most of it” contains more than enough room to encapsulate efforts to improve the world around you, so long as you do so knowing it will never be perfect.

It’s a theme that is further reinforced by Hydaelyns discussion with the Scions, where she specifically highlights how, despite some of their dreams being impossible they still carry on regardless knowing it will never be.

But again, the story creates a very muddy area around the line between "be content with what you have" and "make the world better even if it can't be perfect". I understand that you, and several others, want to give the text the benefit of the doubt and assume that it aspires more to the latter than the former, but the problem is that the way the narrative is muddied gives the former more credibility than it deserves as well.

But none of those things are objective statements of perfection. Knowing all there is to know doesn’t make your society perfect, nor does eliminating sorrow.

That’s not my point though. Once again the paradox that is perfection means that any physical manifestation of it in an imperfect reality is flawed. Congrats you eliminated “all” of your grief and sorrow. And now you wanna kill yourself. If that’s what seeking perfection means then why seek it? That is the core of dilemma with the Dead Ends.

Is it possible to draw a perfect circle? Or calculate all digits of pi? Is the very concept of doing such nonsense too

That's not the point. The point is that the story wants to make the argument that some achievements are impossible, while also presenting us with societies that have achieved actually impossible achievements to point at and say, "See, they did this impossible feat and now they're miserable for it". Again, you can't have it both ways.

Or the game is saying meaning 2 and holding that what we are capable of is limited by the imperfect existence we inhabit.

That's Meaning 1, then. You can't have infinite perfection AND be limited.

I’m using the competition metaphor to show that suffering in some form can beneficial. As a hypothetical, if you could choose between a world with no inequality or a world with some, but everyone is better off than those in the first world, which would you choose?

The issue is that "specific forms of suffering can be good in controlled doses" is not the same as "suffering is good".

Your question is impossible answer without nuance, because "better off" could mean anything.

What fallacy? The Ea are the dog that caught the car and didn’t know what to do with themselves. Y’shtola basically just “yeah I’ll find another car ti chase then.”

That's not what Y'shtola says. Y'shtola says "I'll catch the car for myself anyway". Again, she doesn't disagree with anything the Ea says or offer an alternative -- she just says "I think knowing for myself is fine".

Again, the fallacy of the Ea is the same "absolute, infinite authority" issue. Like the Ancients and the Plenty, they are touted as being all-powerful in whatever subject matter they're dealing with.