Who knew the 6.15 Omega Quests… (Spoilers)

[Rulakir]

I don't have the time to dedicate as much as I'd like to this topic at the moment, I just wanted to throw this quote into the ring because Venat did remind me a lot of Thordan.



I thought Thordan's goals had noble intent, but the execution was problematic and that's why we had to stop him. The difference is with Venat no one was able to stop her, she was allowed to make herself a god, reshape the world in her image, and the only 3 people who could remember what she did (and were in a position to do anything about it) are routinely dismissed (how convenient to disregard victim testimony) because they're Ascians (who only exist due to Hydaelyn).

Emet killed himself rather than live longer by Venats magic.

EN localizers making things unnecessarily confusing since 5.0! Neither Emet or Hyth are "alive". Hydaelyn's boost allowed the WoL to give their souls form when they were summoned, but it's not like they were resurrected. Emet (even in EN) says they're "half-faded souls of the dead". So, they didn't kill themselves, their souls simply returned to the aetherial sea.

[EaraGrace]

EN localizers making things unnecessarily confusing since 5.0! Neither Emet or Hyth are "alive". Hydaelyn's boost allowed the WoL to give their souls form when they were summoned, but it's not like they were resurrected. Emet (even in EN) says they're "half-faded souls of the dead". So, they didn't kill themselves, their souls simply returned to the aetherial sea.

Oh god this is definition of splitting hairs. They could’ve hung out longer but choose not to because Emet didn’t like that it was Venats magic that sustained him. Distinction with little difference.

[Iscah]

EN localizers making things unnecessarily confusing since 5.0! Neither Emet or Hyth are "alive". Hydaelyn's boost allowed the WoL to give their souls form when they were summoned, but it's not like they were resurrected. Emet (even in EN) says they're "half-faded souls of the dead". So, they didn't kill themselves, their souls simply returned to the aetherial sea.

So did the English script fail to clarify that they weren't truly resurrected, or make it clear by having Emet state it in a different line?

I've meant to respond to this specific claim when I saw you post it before, but the discussion moved past it.

Just because it doesn't say in the exact same line between Japanese and English that they're only half-alive, the fact is still conveyed within that scene, and that's all it needs.

[Rulakir]

So did the English script fail to clarify that they weren't truly resurrected, or make it clear by having Emet state it in a different line?

It's more that the Mothercrystal cutscene clarifies what Hydaelyn adds to the Azem crystal and what that will allow it to do, so when the UT cutscene comes up you're already aware that Emet and Hyth weren't resurrected they were merely called from the aetherial sea and given form.

The forces I have control over as Hydaelyn are those of stagnation, of calmness. That which steadies life, you could say it like that.
Combined with the power of Azem you should be able to call that which is hidden and give form to it. But it is limited.
Even those who don't even have a body anymore will answer your call...just like the souls in the Aetherial Sea.
But you need to be aware of one thing. Azem's art is not simple magic. Rather, it is based on your own will that will only take form once you carry a heartfelt wish within you.

Emet is also a lot more direct when he answers Meteion saying, "I'm just a dead man on the verge of disappearing." But, like I said, even in EN he says he's a "half-faded soul of the dead" so there's already acknowledgment he hasn't been resurrected there. His saying that he doesn't wish to live again/kept alive by Hydaelyn's magic is a consistent line, but without the previous context can be confusing. It's why I wanted to clarify that he didn't 'kill himself', he was and is already dead throughout that whole sequence. He just chose not to remain there any longer than necessary. (May be splitting hairs for some, but I've seen plenty of people confused by this!)