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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    People absolutely love to deflect the subset of population who is actively had by choice to people with disabilities or age, it’s a common situation on the OF’s and it’s frankly disgusting
    First, what on Earth are you trying to say? Your post is making no sense. Can you tidy up the sentence a little? Second, you are responding to a post that was making a strawman argument. Read my response to that post for what I ACTUALLY said and meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    First, what on Earth are you trying to say? Your post is making no sense. Can you tidy up the sentence a little? Second, you are responding to a post that was making a strawman argument. Read my response to that post for what I ACTUALLY said and meant.
    No you are 100% deflecting away from people who are actively bad at this game by hiding them behind people with disabilities or age and the other poster is calling you out for it, people with said disabilities don’t want you to defend them for them, especially when a lot of them exceed what you believe they are capable of

    Don’t use sweeping statements about groups we generally empathise with even if you are part of them in an attempt to deflect away from legit problems associated with other groups of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No you are 100% deflecting away from people who are actively bad at this game by hiding them behind people with disabilities or age and the other poster is calling you out for it, people with said disabilities don’t want you to defend them for them, especially when a lot of them exceed what you believe they are capable of

    Don’t use sweeping statements about groups we generally empathise with even if you are part of them in an attempt to deflect away from legit problems associated with other groups of people
    You didn't bother to actually READ my posts, otherwise you would not have made erroneous conclusions about them. There are people like me who have difficulty completing MSQs due to our conditions and ages. That is a fact. Nobody is trying to hide behind anything. That is just your strange and twisted way of interpreting what was written. If the MSQs were to be made harder, some of us would not be able to complete them. At no point in any of my posts did I bring up ANYTHING about players who were just bad at the game. These idiotic strawman arguments that keep coming up are nonsensical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    You didn't bother to actually READ my posts, otherwise you would not have made erroneous conclusions about them. There are people like me who have difficulty completing MSQs due to our conditions and ages. That is a fact. Nobody is trying to hide behind anything. That is just your strange and twisted way of interpreting what was written. If the MSQs were to be made harder, some of us would not be able to complete them. At no point in any of my posts did I bring up ANYTHING about players who were just bad at the game. These idiotic strawman arguments that keep coming up are nonsensical.
    No you bought up a condition that affects you, extrapolated it to the entire population of disabled and elderly and then tried to call Someone who was disabled but could clear savage a straw man, and like I said this is all to deflect that the OP doesn’t want to exclude you because you are old they want people to attempt to improve who are bad at the game by choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    No you bought up a condition that affects you, extrapolated it to the entire population of disabled and elderly and then tried to call Someone who was disabled but could clear savage a straw man, and like I said this is all to deflect that the OP doesn’t want to exclude you because you are old they want people to attempt to improve who are bad at the game by choice
    Are you incapable of understanding English? I ask seriously because you have completely misrepresented what both Mosha and I have posted. Mosha brought up the strawman argument of me claiming that people of my ages and with disabilities didn't WANT harder content. I wrote NO SUCH THING. I wrote that some of us who are elderly and have conditions would not be ABLE to complete MSQs if they were made harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    You DO realize, I hope, that some of us might be elderly or disabled or both and would likely be excluded by your elitist vision of what the game should be like.
    this is what you wrote

    "some of us who are" and "some of us might be"

    have two very different connotations.

    if you originally said "some of us who are" I wouldn't have said anything it's a fair point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    this is what you wrote

    "some of us who are" and "some of us might be"

    have two very different connotations.

    if you originally said "some of us who are" I wouldn't have said anything it's a fair point.
    Did you miss the word "likely"? I know of some people my age who could probably zip through high end content. Not all of us can. I never claimed that people in my age category or level of disability were a monobloc. That was purely an interpretation (an incorrect one) on your part. The fact is, SOME players WILL get excluded if the MSQs were to be made more difficult. If you and others had simply asked for a hard mode to be included, I wouldn't have been so critical. No such distinction was offered however.
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    Last edited by Eraden; 08-01-2022 at 10:23 AM.