Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
So, you tell me, what better way would there be to make the Ascians / Ancients want to interact with the player in a friendly way? (As an aside, Venat interacts with the WoL differently because she doesn't seem to have the special sight Hades and Hyth have. She smells her own magic, and is drawn to us as a message from herself. It's a tad conceited, but I digress)
Frankly, I don't think they need it.

Hythlodaeus is a frustratingly friendly and helpful guy who probably would've said and done exactly the same things anyway. Granted, we have absolutely zero context for how Hyth deals with strangers thanks to him only knowing us as someone he recognizes... but since we've never seen him around strangers anyway, who's to say that's not his normal demeanor anyway?
Venat confirmably doesn't need it, she barrelled right past that plot hook to instead grab onto a much more personally interesting one (and frankly, one that probably would've worked for Emet and Hyth if they really needed it).
And Emet... well, I would never once consider our interactions with Emet friendly, he never once got warmer than 'begrudging tolerance' with us.

But further on Emet, I don't think he needs Azem as motivation either, he's already got plenty. Emet allegedly cares about his people, and wants us to realize that too. He also knows that the Echo is a sign of someone whose soul goes back to Amaurot (even if we wouldn't learn that for another couple patches), so that's his reason for nostalgizing to us; he knows that we, unlike everyone else, actually does have some capacity to remember that. He also doesn't need Azem as a personal connection to motivate him; mostly that's because he never discusses something like that, but even if he did, Hythlodaeus is up there in Zodiark; that's all the personal motivation he needs.

So yeah, I don't really think this squares either. And even if it did... I mean, surely they could've written that without making the person he recognizes us as an ex-member of the Convocation, and they definitely could've not brought them in for Pandaemonium.