Purge ERP from this game!

[NanaWiloh]

First off calm tf down. If you're so passionate about this log in and start reporting every erp venue and public experience you see. Keep your anger away from this here.

Secondly does the game being 18+ protect you legally? To be more specific, if someone were to erp with a minor in an 18+ game would they be legally protected and face 0 consequences? Because if not then my point 100% stands

Also as an aside, there was a GM a few months back on Primal iirc who was banning erp venues advertised as 18+ and they got reprimanded for doing so. There was a protest in Limsa and everything. So if it REALLY wasn't suppose to be in the game that wouldn't have happened.

I am calm people need to hammer into their skulls ERP is not allowed cause the games rating would have to change. Upholding the Teen rating is eaiser to do for SE then changing the games rating. If was suppose to be in game you wouldnt get banned for doing when caught.

[CaptainDillweed]

Secondly does the game being 18+ protect you legally? To be more specific, if someone were to erp with a minor in an 18+ game would they be legally protected and face 0 consequences? Because if not then my point 100% stands

You are being disingenuous. Regardless of what sort of online environment you are in, or what sort of game you are playing, you are still responsible for doing your own due diligence. The difference being in a mature rated game, one can more reasonably expect that the people they will be interacting with will be of age. Now, of course teens lie about their age to get into websites they shouldn’t be on. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to bring the mature content down to a lower rated game just because that might happen. You’re not making a point. As an adult online you are responsible for your own conduct.

[CaptainCoral]

and ps if u got a decent game i dont have to sub for or pay for a server i will gladly go to it for it.. but as it stands the only one I've found requires a sub but atm im 2 broke to get it atleast for 2 weeks anyways also feel free to send it to me on discord if u dont want to link it here


right now the only decent one is dxchat but i have to wait for next month for a year sub

[IkaraGreydancer]

You are being disingenuous. Regardless of what sort of online environment you are in, or what sort of game you are playing, you are still responsible for doing your own due diligence. The difference being in a mature rated game, one can more reasonably expect that the people they will be interacting with will be of age. Now, of course teens lie about their age to get into websites they shouldn’t be on. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to bring the mature content down to a lower rated game just because that might happen. You’re not making a point. As an adult online you are responsible for your own conduct.

I'm not being disingenuous at all. Youre just avoiding the question. They made a point to stay to mature spaces. I made a point that mature spaces doesn't guarantee anything which is a FACT. They won't protect you from anything and the same outcome will come about.

I challenge every last one of you crusaders to report each and every erper you see from this day forward and see how many of them get their accounts banned. If you truly stand by this notion that it has no place in xiv I'll respect it so long as youre doing your part to get it out of the game.

[Xylira]

I am calm people need to hammer into their skulls ERP is not allowed cause the games rating would have to change. Upholding the Teen rating is eaiser to do for SE then changing the games rating. If was suppose to be in game you wouldnt get banned for doing when caught.

Incorrect. The ESRB and PEGI rating systems only take game content into consideration when deciding the rating, they explicitly do not consider potential online interaction for rating purposes. This is exactly why there is always a disclaimer for any game with an ESRB or PEGI rating with any online component, where they state that online interaction may vary from the given rating.

[ronibosch]

fine ill back off... it just angrys me how everyones kids this kids that but their kids have 99% of the world we don't even have 1% space for our stuff..

I understand your frustrations, but I wouldn't count on FFXIV becoming a rated M game. ERP all you like, but it's best to keep it in private. On this game, at least. Plus, I doubt they would make new servers for 18+, especially since underage players could easily lie about their age to access these areas. It would also be a PR mess for SE. They would lose more from pulling such a move than they would gain.
I wish you good luck on finding your kinky, child free paradise, though! (I genuinely mean that.)

[CaptainDillweed]

I'm not being disingenuous at all. Youre just avoiding the question. They made a point to stay to mature spaces. I made a point that mature spaces doesn't guarantee anything which is a FACT. They won't protect you from anything and the same outcome will come about.

I challenge every last one of you crusaders to report each and every erper you see from this day forward and see how many of them get their accounts banned. If you truly stand by this notion that it has no place in xiv I'll respect it so long as youre doing your part to get it out of the game.

I've answered your "question". Did you even read my post? No, it won't protect you, which is why you are still responsible for doing your due diligence to avoid that situation. Not diving in, consequences be damned because it may or may not happen.

As I've said in the other thread, I really do not give a shit one way or the other if two consenting adults want to pretend to be catgirls and get freaky in private. The key word there being "adults". Why is it such an impossible ask to just take responsibility for yourself before diving into what could be a compromising situation? It's that laissez-faire attitude towards the fact that younger people do play this game that I take issue with. Just as ERPers have the right to play this game, so do people aged 13+, just as the game is rated.

[NanaWiloh]

Incorrect. The ESRB and PEGI rating systems only take game content into consideration when deciding the rating, they explicitly do not consider potential online interaction for rating purposes. This is exactly why there is always a disclaimer for any game with an ESRB or PEGI rating with any online component, where they state that online interaction may vary from the given rating.

Ya and there are countries who dont give damn about that disclaimer they find Mature content in a teen rated game heads roll. The disclaimer is just the ESRB and pegi freeing themselves of something they have no control over, it does not free SE of the matter.

[IkaraGreydancer]

I've answered your "question". Did you even read my post? No, it won't protect you, which is why you are still responsible for doing your due diligence to avoid that situation. Not diving in, consequences be damned because it may or may not happen.

As I've said in the other thread, I really do not give a shit one way or the other if two consenting adults want to pretend to be catgirls and get freaky in private. The key word there being "adults". Why is it such an impossible ask to just take responsibility for yourself before diving into what could be a compromising situation? It's that laissez-faire attitude towards the fact that younger people do play this game that I take issue with. Just as ERPers have the right to play this game, so do people aged 13+, just as the game is rated.

Take responsibility in WHAT WAY?!?!? Simply advertising as 18+ ain't enough for folks here clearly. And outside of that there is literally no other way to insure anything. You're talking in circles with no actual solution.

Most here (from what I've read) aren't just hopping in and erping nor do any seems to be trying to meet minors. I think erp in most cases is as responsible as it can be. And the public stuff that's seen gets handled accordingly

[Xylira]

Ya and there are countries who dont give damn about that disclaimer they find Mature content in a teen rated game heads roll..

Such as? Do you have actual examples of this, or just your righteous indignation backing up your claim?

You don't seem to understand that in most cases the rating systems are in no way legally binding. The ESRB and PEGI are non-government, industry run, organizations. The only rating system with some teeth is Austrailia's, which is actually government run, however they also do not consider online interactivity as part of their domain. I suppose China's is pretty strict, but that's a whole different animal as FF in China is run by an entirely different publisher and not relevant to the current conversation of SE run FFXIV.

I'm neither defending nor admonishing ERP, simply giving you facts that the claims you're making have no foundation. Every single prominent rating system does not consider online interaction when handing out ratings.