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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemachu View Post
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    At that time we are in possession of Azem's crystal. Yes Emet did carry it around but he wasn't the intended bearer.

    And the first part both talks about being confident, just that the DE one spells it out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    At that time we are in possession of Azem's crystal. Yes Emet did carry it around but he wasn't the intended bearer.

    And the first part both talks about being confident, just that the DE one spells it out for you.
    The word used was 'original' not 'intended' though. It's needless confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    The word used was 'original' not 'intended' though. It's needless confusion.
    Azem did carry it, but as you recall he left his position leaving the 14th seat vacant in the midst of the crisis so Emet carried the crystal for safe-keeping and respect.

    Edit: I now recall this statement being wrong, was thinking about the crystals existing like badges prior to the split but that was not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Azem did carry it, but as you recall he left his position leaving the 14th seat vacant in the midst of the crisis so Emet carried the crystal for safe-keeping and respect.
    ...Emet made the crystal after Azem had already left the Convocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tama-Kanzashi View Post
    ...Emet made the crystal after Azem had already left the Convocation.
    Ok found the short story, yeah the were all made in union with Lahabrea and Elidibus about their memories of the fourteen members, except for Azem. Which Emet made in secret.

    Still the text makes it clear that it's referring to Azem, unless you are pedantic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemachu View Post
    EN: "When the way forward is hidden even from the mind's eye, look not to the invocation, but within yourself. These were the words of the crystal's original bearer."
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Still the text makes it clear that it's referring to Azem, unless you are pedantic...
    No. It does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Ok found the short story, yeah the were all made in union with Lahabrea and Elidibus about their memories of the fourteen members, except for Azem. Which Emet made in secret.

    Still the text makes it clear that it's referring to Azem, unless you are pedantic...
    It doesn't make it clear, it literally talks about the former bearer, which is, by meaning of the word bearer, the person who carried it on them, the person in whose possession it was. Which was not Azem until recently.
    This has nothing to do with being pedantic, it has something to do with wrong terminology being used in this instance. The former bearer could never be Azem. It is impossible, so it is wrong to call them that.
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    While you were studying the blade, I was learning about better recycling methods from Elidibus.

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    Just going to add that at least in FR and DE the person being referred to is gendered to the WoL, so you know for certain Hydaelyn is speaking of their Azem. Regardless, the other languages refer to the creator of the magic not who 'bore' the crystal. It made me think whoever wrote that dialog forgot that Emet had created it in secret.
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