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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Thing is, Yoshi told us Hroth was always meant to be a limited race (i wont bother looking for the live letter proof but it was there., he said more on what Hroth would not have or be than ever mentioning Male Viera.
    A bit convenient given how this is such a broad statement with serious implications.

    Talking about limitations and issues isn't the same as labelling the race as Limited, and to my knowledge, never once has Yoshida done that on an official basis. That term was never once used to describe Hrothgar nor any other race to this date.

    It may be that it's their desire implicitly, but there's nothing official about it other than talking about how hard it is to make content and how different the race is designed. Which is to be expected: it's a beast race. It's not something you can copy-paste from humans. That is obvious.

    Constantly saying Yoshida did label this race as such isn't only erroneous, it is irresponsible and actually does harm to Hrothgar players. It promotes negative notions that have led to harassment from the community toward Hrothgar players.

    Please watch your words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    A bit convenient given how this is such a broad statement with serious implications.

    Talking about limitations and issues isn't the same as labelling the race as Limited, and to my knowledge, never once has Yoshida done that on an official basis. That term was never once used to describe Hrothgar nor any other race to this date.

    It may be that it's their desire implicitly, but there's nothing official about it other than talking about how hard it is to make content and how different the race is designed. Which is to be expected: it's a beast race. It's not something you can copy-paste from humans. That is obvious.

    Constantly saying Yoshida did label this race as such isn't only erroneous, it is irresponsible and actually does harm to Hrothgar players. It promotes negative notions that have led to harassment from the community toward Hrothgar players.

    Please watch your words.
    But it's not wrong. The proof is there to see for all, & to say different would be tantamount to lying about the issue, which would fix nothing.

    Never have i hidden my disdain for Hroth & always felt their inclusion was unnecessary & handled horribly but my opinion isn't the only one that matters & people have the right to pursue that which they want to project themselves as. They also deserve to have access to all the features that every other player has in the ability to customise their avatar. I feel a complete redesign is needed to go forward or else the issue of their limited status will never be addressed.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    But it's not wrong. The proof is there to see for all, & to say different would be tantamount to lying about the issue, which would fix nothing.

    Never have i hidden my disdain for Hroth & always felt their inclusion was unnecessary & handled horribly but my opinion isn't the only one that matters & people have the right to pursue that which they want to project themselves as. They also deserve to have access to all the features that every other player has in the ability to customise their avatar. I feel a complete redesign is needed to go forward or else the issue of their limited status will never be addressed.
    "But it's not wrong", no, we're just gonna go ahead and dismiss it of any and all context. Then you just proceed to twist it into making it so that anyone saying otherwise is lying... when no, you just need to understand and accept the nuance in what you said. That IS, after all, what sparked this whole thing: people not grasping the nuance between what Yoshida said about the race vs what Yoshida labelled (or didn't) the race.

    Also "disdain"... sis



    What are you, ten? You're really gonna dislike a pair of pixels that hard? You're gonna be that guy?
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 07-15-2022 at 11:51 AM.