Why do Mi’qote ears go through Snow’s hat but not Hrothgar ears?

[XiRon]

Whatever Yoshida says doesnt matter because he held a gun inbetween the shoulderblades of the dev team pre-shb and TOLD them to make hrothgar the only race with different skulls, he TOLD them not to bother making an entire gearslot disappear from hrothgar and viera.
We know these are lameass excuses to not make things work properly because the dev team had to break into sehq on their time off to make glasses and circlets work so hrothgar and viera wouldnt be completely screwed over out of a gear slot.
We know the """"limitations""""" only exists for hrothgar, so much so that an entire expac later we still cant use our base racial hairs without buying a fantasia and changing our face, because they made two races poorly instead of the just race they allegedly wanted to make since hw.
And we know if every hrothgar unsubbed today Yoshida wouldnt care because we dont have double-digit player percentage.
So the only hope hrothgar can have is in 7.0 the graphical update will be kind.
Maybe we'll get more hair in endwalker patches but the entire x.1x series just passed and not once did they add ears back to new hroth options so I have 0 hope and have no reason to hope.

[SturmChurro]

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Yeah, I am pretty sure that is kind of how it is, I'd probably describe it differently though. Anyway, I was saying so in another thread the other day. It was "rigged from the start", as they say. Female viera and male hrothgar made with intentional limitations.

Like I was saying in a previous post, in an interview, he describes that viera would have to have their ears on their head like miqo'te.

Q: With the two new races' unique heads, how will their headgear work?

A: It won't be displayed, because those face parts wouldn't work in FFXIV's system if headgear were involved. Even Viera ears would've had to be moved down to where Miqo'te ears are. (...)

I mean, I'm no viera expert, like some players (only played FFXIV), but don't viera in the other games have ears there? Even if not, they could probably have figured something out (at least I'd hope so)!

[Avidria]

Because SE decided to add a beast race with zero intention of either actually leaning into it being a beast race or giving it any parity with any of the other races customizability.

[SturmChurro]

Because SE decided to add a beast race with zero intention of either actually leaning into it being a beast race or giving it any parity with any of the other races customizability.

No, the intention was there, for the face, but it was done in a way that completely compromised their ability to add hairs or headgear easier, apparently. As for customizability, yes I agree with you, the faces being deemed acceptable, just shows that, in my opinion.

[Midareyukki]

I mean, I'm no viera expert, like some players (only played FFXIV), but don't viera in the other games have ears there? Even if not, they could probably have figured something out (at least I'd hope so)!

Not a Viera expert either but

Seems to me the only time Vieras have ever been represented with their ears a bit higher than they look like was on FF Tactics Advance 2. The RDM's hat has ears that start on the hat rather than her skull. And that's just artwork.
Apart from that? Every Viera had normal ears.

I don't know where Yoshida and co. hallucinated these ears being higher as a standard, but they need to lay off the Gysahl Greens. It's getting in the way of their game-making abilities.
It's not just Viera and Hrothgar suffering. Name one patch that hasn't had something really stupid since Endwalker Early Access.

I think Square just wants to stealthily smother this game. Either that or see just how low we'll sink. How far we'll make up excuses for them.

[Raoabolic]

Name one patch that hasn't had something really stupid since Endwalker Early Access.

To be fair, that's what, three patches? The devs are known to start something and usually leave it half finished, lol.
*leaves broken Lords of Vermillion machine in the middle of the Golden Saucer parking lot*

[Midareyukki]

To be fair, that's what, three patches? The devs are known to start something and usually leave it half finished, lol.
*leaves broken Lords of Vermillion machine in the middle of the Golden Saucer parking lot*

- Release was delayed
- Flooded Early Access that bled into the release proper
- Square refusing to take any fault for the errors for days until people showed them evidence
- Weird noise crackling glitches
- Yoshida having to defend the team's storytelling choices, suhc as Garlemald
- Dismissive attitude toward Hrothgar and their hairstyles
- Followed by announcing Legacy Races having a rehaul instead of actually fixing Hrothgar hairstyles
- An Extreme trial with false difficulty which directly contradicts their concerns about Hrothgar hairstyles
- A PvP system with game-breaking bugs and unfair advantages
- All about Housing
- A new menu called "beta" despite very much still operating as though it were an Alpha stage
- Yoshida making excuses for PvP BLM for some reason
- Everything related to Data Center travel

Now, not everything is "game breaking", but at this point they're just taking advantage of whatever little good faith they've got left.

"Features being incomplete" is normal for Square Enix, and has been since as long as I've been playing (mid-Heavensward). It's not ideal, but it wasn't this bad either. Every single patch in Endwalker has been just a crumbling mess with very few saving graces.

It's not "Oh it's only been 3 patches".
It's "Damn, this expansion has only had 3 patches so far and it's already this bad, with none of them being remotely acceptable".

[SturmChurro]

Not a Viera expert either but

Seems to me the only time Vieras have ever been represented with their ears a bit higher than they look like was on FF Tactics Advance 2. The RDM's hat has ears that start on the hat rather than her skull. And that's just artwork.
Apart from that? Every Viera had normal ears.

I don't know where Yoshida and co. hallucinated these ears being higher as a standard, but they need to lay off the Gysahl Greens. It's getting in the way of their game-making abilities.
It's not just Viera and Hrothgar suffering. Name one patch that hasn't had something really stupid since Endwalker Early Access.

I think Square just wants to stealthily smother this game. Either that or see just how low we'll sink. How far we'll make up excuses for them.

I really just feel like this justification for not giving them headgear, because viera ears are higher up, is SUCH a stretch. Especially as it does seem to be averse to previous viera design. Literaly just an excuse to not do it. I can't speak for others, but having headgear available over "customizable ears" is something I'd take. I really just feel like they were/are dead set on these races being limited, and that sucks. Just giving hrothgar ears on their hair, might as well be insurmountable, because they just don't want to do it. Them not wanting to do it is, I think, the biggest issue here.

[Midareyukki]

I really just feel like this justification for not giving them headgear, because viera ears are higher up, is SUCH a stretch. Especially as it does seem to be averse to previous viera design. Literaly just an excuse to not do it. I can't speak for others, but having headgear available over "customizable ears" is something I'd take. I really just feel like they were/are dead set on these races being limited, and that sucks. Just giving hrothgar ears on their hair, might as well be insurmountable, because they just don't want to do it. Them not wanting to do it is, I think, the biggest issue here.

It is. And all we can hope is that they look at people talking about what's going on and reconsider. But it just feels like it's set in stone now, and that garbage quality is what we'll get. That it's okay to sacrifice us.

If that really isn't their opinion, then I challenge them to be straightforward with us and say so. Otherwise that's just how we'll all be feeling. A feeling that makes us think "welp, they won't care that we feel this way, no matter how much they claim otherwise. Results speak for themselves".

[Deveryn]

- Release was delayed
- Flooded Early Access that bled into the release proper
- Square refusing to take any fault for the errors for days until people showed them evidence
- Weird noise crackling glitches
- Yoshida having to defend the team's storytelling choices, suhc as Garlemald
- Dismissive attitude toward Hrothgar and their hairstyles
- Followed by announcing Legacy Races having a rehaul instead of actually fixing Hrothgar hairstyles
- An Extreme trial with false difficulty which directly contradicts their concerns about Hrothgar hairstyles
- A PvP system with game-breaking bugs and unfair advantages
- All about Housing
- A new menu called "beta" despite very much still operating as though it were an Alpha stage
- Yoshida making excuses for PvP BLM for some reason
- Everything related to Data Center travel

Now, not everything is "game breaking", but at this point they're just taking advantage of whatever little good faith they've got left.

"Features being incomplete" is normal for Square Enix, and has been since as long as I've been playing (mid-Heavensward). It's not ideal, but it wasn't this bad either. Every single patch in Endwalker has been just a crumbling mess with very few saving graces.

It's not "Oh it's only been 3 patches".
It's "Damn, this expansion has only had 3 patches so far and it's already this bad, with none of them being remotely acceptable".

Welcome to the world of MMOs, where problems exist (but some of them are in the player's head.)