What are you talking about, this thread is the new battlefield, really.
Jokes apart, does not having an instanced area automatically make a relic better? Cause by that logic ARR and HW relics are the best to date, and yet they're not famous for being fun to do.
I'm looking at the progression over the years. I've worked on each one, though I've only ever finished all of ShB and one HW. I see them learning from past series. It's still a grind, but it's not as painful as the last. They make it more accessible each time. I don't doubt there will be FATEs and raids involved, but they probably won't be a specific FATE or a savage raid. One might have to go through Bozja though. It seems like they want to keep that relevant for some time and not have it end up like Diadem.
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