Hildibrand for relic? Really?

[RyuDragnier]

The problem is more that people are complaining about a simple questline you can get done in less than a day if you cutscene skip, and causing a huge fuss over what is to many a non-issue BECAUSE it's that quick to get through. Hell, it's faster than getting through Ivalice if you cutscene skip. People are raging and acting like this is the end of the world when IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS. Just skip the cutscenes if you don't like the story and bumrush to the end. Spend a few hours today, or hell, do 1-2 quests a day, you'll still be done before it comes out. Speaking of which, it comes out IN OCTOBER. You have more than 2 months to do this.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I started playing in mid-late Heavensward, didn't see a point to grinding out a relic because at that point it was faster to go for a Shire weapon.

In Stormblood, I was excited to try when it was current, but then it was locked in Eureka. I didn't like Eureka, so I shrugged and didn't bother.

In Shadowbringers, I was excited to try again, but then it was locked at least partly behind Bozja. I didn't like Bozja, so I shrugged and didn't bother.

Now it'll be locked at least partly behind Hildebrand. If you don't like Hildebrand.....

[Infindox]

Nah. I think the real 'edgelords' are those who can't grasp the idea of personal tastes, cultural differences and that not everything is about black or white morality.

To say nothing of the bizarre personal attacks the moment someone suggests that maybe they just don't like a particular thing that is deliberately designed to be as over the top as possible.

Though this game's community has always had a portion of very strange individuals who feel compelled to attack people for liking or disliking the 'wrong' characters.

It has absolutely nothing to do with "attacking people". I know not everyone is going to enjoy Hildibrand. This game has a variety of things for different people to enjoy. I enjoy doing content in general but dislike fishing; some people play this game only FOR the fishing, and that's cool!
The problem is people are making a HUGE fuss about quests that you can skip all the cutscenes and unsync the trials involved and pretty much ignore everything, taking no more then a few hours of your time. You also have some months to do this. Take a little bit of a break from your g-posing and club hopping and do a quest or two of it a day, then come back to it the next day and repeat until you're done.
Also... These are relic weapons, there's always something somewhere that you will find annoying.

[Hanayumi]

Hmm now that i think about, gonna hammer a guess that the silly weapon designs we had a short while ago, might end up being a step or 2 for this relic.

[Deveryn]

Hmm now that i think about, gonna hammer a guess that the silly weapon designs we had a short while ago, might end up being a step or 2 for this relic.

Blue mage was included in that... but probably not for that purpose... or was it?

[Elesh]

Hildibrand for relic is just... not good. My issues with it holistically:
1) I don't like the idea of forcing every end-game player to go through the worst written and most bigoted quest in ffxiv(Specifically Heavensward Hildibrand, not Hildibrand as a whole)
2) It's bad form to make new players go through four expansions of an optional sidequest to access progression content.

My personal issue aside from the above is that I'm pretty confident this means we're getting gaudy, hideous weapons because gaudy and exaggerated is what Manderville stands for. But meh, that's not a big deal - I can just glam over it. Also... I think it's a real shame to not leverage ANY of the fascinating expert craftspeople we have in Endwalker that are story relevant who have unique and amazing visual styles for this.

[Deveryn]

Hildibrand for relic is just... not good. My issues with it holistically:
1) I don't like the idea of forcing every end-game player

I need to cut you off right there because there's something people seem to forget about relics. They're not actually end-game. They're always a step behind savage weaponry.

Also, no one's being forced. It's just a flashy weapon... generally the flashiest... It only offers an advantage in running older content or leveling up in dungeons for the next level cap. They don't have to be done at all.

[Elesh]

I need to cut you off right there because there's something people seem to forget about relics. They're not actually end-game. They're always a step behind savage weaponry.

Also, no one's being forced. It's just a flashy weapon... generally the flashiest... It only offers an advantage in running older content or leveling up in dungeons for the next level cap. They don't have to be done at all.

535 relics were definitely BIS for TEA. Which does qualify as end-game.

"Bigoted" how?

It's full of ablist, ageist humour. Which is DEFINITELY bigotry.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's full of ablist, ageist humour. Which is DEFINITELY bigotry.

Do you have Examples?

[Saraide]

535 relics were definitely BIS for TEA. Which does qualify as end-game.



It's full of ablist, ageist humour. Which is DEFINITELY bigotry.

No we should make fun of old people who are forever stuck in the days of old.