VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Adamantini]

i began ffxiv as a viera, in fact i skipped the free trial to be one. a few months later i fantasied to an au'ra because of a hairstyle i liked that coincidentally has a major bug with hats (a piece of the hair is removed) so i opt out of wearing hats, like a viera would. it's a shame that the viera content is still taking a while, i wanted to fantasia back into one in the future but it seems far off. i wish you all the best in getting the message heard...

seeing this, I wonder how many people started playing the game as viera or hrothgar, unaware of the restrictions, and ended up getting frustrated.

A friend of mine started out as a highlander but bought the game after 1 week. Even though I warned him about the restrictions, he created a hrothgar. After witnessing the disregard for the race, he ended up using a fantasia to become an Au'ra. He says that if SE stops this stupidity, he goes back to hrothgar, as he finds all races in the game "human with pet ears"

[Akimori]

seeing this, I wonder how many people started playing the game as viera or hrothgar, unaware of the restrictions, and ended up getting frustrated.

A friend of mine started out as a highlander but bought the game after 1 week. Even though I warned him about the restrictions, he created a hrothgar. After witnessing the disregard for the race, he ended up using a fantasia to become an Au'ra. He says that if SE stops this stupidity, he goes back to hrothgar, as he finds all races in the game "human with pet ears"

Both of my younger brothers got into this game shortly after ShB released. Myself, my best friend, and my 2 younger brothers al became hrothgar, but after a month, both of my brothers switched off because they lacked customization
The vicious cycle continues for hrothgar since Vieras are more widely popular than hrothgar

>SE doesn't wanna fix Hrothgar and sink resources because playerbase is low
>Playerbase is low because SE doesn't want to fix hrothgar and sink resources into them
>Rinse and repeat

Fixed that for ya, and....???? People are defending the Lack of Hats for Viera and Hrothgar?
Where?

The same people who spout the "wElL yOu KnEw ThEy WoUlD bE lImItEd! PLaY aNoThEr RaCe ThEn!!!1!!1!1"

Sometimes they're brave enough to show their ugly heads in these V/H threads, but they're mainly on twitter and reddit

[myahele]

seeing this, I wonder how many people started playing the game as viera or hrothgar, unaware of the restrictions, and ended up getting frustrated.

A friend of mine started out as a highlander but bought the game after 1 week. Even though I warned him about the restrictions, he created a hrothgar. After witnessing the disregard for the race, he ended up using a fantasia to become an Au'ra. He says that if SE stops this stupidity, he goes back to hrothgar, as he finds all races in the game "human with pet ears"

It's quite deceptive. The cgi version has claws and comes in a color that Hrothgar don't have in the CC

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

It's quite deceptive. The cgi version has claws and comes in a color that Hrothgar don't have in the CC

You can actually get those claws...just...its tied to an item instead of being in the CC which...is very weird and dumb.
So if you want those claws, you wouldnt be able to wear those Gauntlets.

The same people who spout the "wElL yOu KnEw ThEy WoUlD bE lImItEd! PLaY aNoThEr RaCe ThEn!!!1!!1!1"

Sometimes they're brave enough to show their ugly heads in these V/H threads, but they're mainly on twitter and reddit

Ah, I thought you meant recently in the past few pages.
Im like "Ive been seeing nothing but condemnation of the Hat thing"

[RyuDragnier]

You can actually get those claws...just...its tied to an item instead of being in the CC which...is very weird and dumb.
So if you want those claws, you wouldnt be able to wear those Gauntlets.

Really makes me wonder why some fashion accessories can't be worn regardless of area and regardless of whether in battle or not. Like the wings. Make those claws into a fashion accessory and let them be worn wherever, like a visual toggle.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Really makes me wonder why some fashion accessories can't be worn regardless of area and regardless of whether in battle or not. Like the wings. Make those claws into a fashion accessory and let them be worn wherever, like a visual toggle.

All things considered it should just be an active part of the design. Default. They should also get footclaws.
Then there should be a toggle for removing them if people just really want smooth human fingernails.

[Akimori]

All things considered it should just be an active part of the design. Default. They should also get footclaws.
Then there should be a toggle for removing them if people just really want smooth human fingernails.

Agreed. For a race thats suppose to be so beastial, they really did skimp out on the beast like attributes...except for that damn hunch. No feet claws at all, their actual claws tied to their race specific glove, their emotes, while charming and shows that Hrothgar are actually gentleman, lack that beast like charm (look at charr. They sleep, stretch, and act like cats). The only "beast type" emotes they have are their pose (*HISSSSSS*) and their dance....which...IDKWTF they're doing and its almost embarrassing to look at....

I wish their idle animations were them twitching their noses, their lookout emote was them moving their ears around to scan the area, their doze emote was them lying down and curling up like a cat....there are so many things I wish Hrothgar had gotten, but didn't T_T

Even the NPCs dont display this...they're actually large cat men who cry about missing their families and one of them likes to make you and your friends soup

[SturmChurro]

Generic White Hair Catgirl no.77564389 wont have you slander the devs (..)They put an asterisk and dont offer you alternate hatless purchase options

Seriously? I literally said to give feedback to the devs for that.

(..) If they sold a variant on the store without the hat, then sure there's your discount. I'd suggest people start giving more of that feedback on separating the pieces. I don't know if they'd ever actually do it, but it's worth a shot (across platforms).

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No it's a lot more like, they've been sat around for 3 years knowing people want to wear hats on these races, and they didn't even bother to make the "new" hairs have the necessary deforms to make them compatible with head gear,
showing 0 signs of willingness to fix the hair, without which no matter how much time they spend on a new item, if it has hair it just won't work for them.
The smart idea would be to start working on all the base hairs to include this missing feature, and give them new hairs after, otherwise they'll have to revisit more hair later on.. ( but I think it's a fair assumption that they won't at all. )

Exactly this. They don't seem to be showing any sign of going back on their initial intent of not giving them hats. I said this in more detail in a post of mine in the actual outfit thread, they could probably spend some time and make hat hair, and/or make more hats available, but they really seem to just not want to do it. I'm sure they are well aware these players want hats to be shown.

A friend of mine started out as a highlander but bought the game after 1 week. Even though I warned him about the restrictions, he created a hrothgar. After witnessing the disregard for the race, he ended up using a fantasia to become an Au'ra. He says that if SE stops this stupidity, he goes back to hrothgar, as he finds all races in the game "human with pet ears"

That's what happened with a lot of female viera and hrothgar players during launch (myself included). It isn't until a little later, that they realize the extent of the limitations of these races and then decide to switch off, disappointed. It happened with male viera players too, they had to have known of the limitations before but played the race anyway.

>SE doesn't wanna fix Hrothgar and sink resources because playerbase is low
>Playerbase is low because SE doesn't want to fix hrothgar and sink resources into them
>Rinse and repeat

I don't think that's really why. I think it's very simple. They just don't want to sink resources. Period.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Agreed. For a race thats suppose to be so beastial, they really did skimp out on the beast like attributes...except for that damn hunch. No feet claws at all, their actual claws tied to their race specific glove, their emotes, while charming and shows that Hrothgar are actually gentleman, lack that beast like charm (look at charr. They sleep, stretch, and act like cats). The only "beast type" emotes they have are their pose (*HISSSSSS*) and their dance....which...IDKWTF they're doing and its almost embarrassing to look at....

I wish their idle animations were them twitching their noses, their lookout emote was them moving their ears around to scan the area, their doze emote was them lying down and curling up like a cat....there are so many things I wish Hrothgar had gotten, but didn't T_T

Even the NPCs dont display this...they're actually large cat men who cry about missing their families and one of them likes to make you and your friends soup

Ugh...why did you say all that...now Im actually upset about it XD
There is so much they missed out on with the Hrothgar.
Still love 'em to death, still eager and stoked for Females, but there is just so much they could have done....

[Akimori]

Ugh...why did you say all that...now Im actually upset about it XD
There is so much they missed out on with the Hrothgar.
Still love 'em to death, still eager and stoked for Females, but there is just so much they could have done....

We can be upset together about what could have been