Housing Revision opinion

[Thaciscokidd]

I'll never understand why people feel anything against solo FCs. Even if all of them disappeared, you'd still not get your house. Lmao

IIRC FCs and People relocating use to have priority in getting houses. You could be camping a placard and a FC swoops in and take your spot. Or even worse you could get you could get someone from that certain FC discord that would troll relocate to reset the timer on the placard and do this multiple times for the luls.

[DeNada]

I don't really have an issue with anyone who might want to form a solo FC for all his alt characters to be in if he/she is dissatisfied with the social FC they have been with.

What I take issue with is players who take advantage of the loopholes to amass multiple FC houses simply because of greed. If there's any changes to restrict FC ownership of plots, it's those players that should be targeted first and foremost so as to nip the issue in the bud and prevent it from ballooning out of control.

[Hustensaft]

If we make up arbitrary dumb rules...

... Housing lottery should go by FC and character age, not by RNG! That way the most senior players will be rewarded for their loyalty. To make it better, older FCs and charachters should be able to evict people if they ever wanted a plot.

[UkcsAlias]

If we make up arbitrary dumb rules...

... Housing lottery should go by FC and character age, not by RNG! That way the most senior players will be rewarded for their loyalty. To make it better, older FCs and charachters should be able to evict people if they ever wanted a plot.

Great... the mostly inactive FC of a 7y old account has 400 members of which at most 20 are active players, which are barely having any interaction, gets the advantage.
In the meantime, a recent player from a year ago which has a fresh fc with a lot of active members (basicly carried over the WoW group) would be denied because of that.

RNG is better.

At most some modifiers for activity could work (lets say the total number of members that was online during the past month gives a bonus ticket count up to 10 tickets max). This makes shell FCs a lot less likely to win. And actualy prioritizes active FCs regardless of account age.

[Johners]

If we make up arbitrary dumb rules...

... Housing lottery should go by FC and character age, not by RNG! That way the most senior players will be rewarded for their loyalty. To make it better, older FCs and charachters should be able to evict people if they ever wanted a plot.

This has to be one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen. The entire concept of just catering to whoever played the longest is just dumb because honestly, especially legacy players, they have the worst takes. Nobody cares that you've played since 1.0 or ARR, get over it. Square Enix don't owe ARR players a house over someone that got one from the raffle but started in ShB.

[Denji]

I would say exploiting a loophole is still sort of gaming the system... yet I don't blame players for doing what they need to just experience a part of the game.

While I'm not saying there should be no barrier to entry when it comes to making a house (mostly so trial and a million level 1 players can't just obliterate everything) I am saying that I don't blame people for doing what they need to do just to get a house. If square isn't trying to solve the issue (and hasn't, for years, actually done anything about the total lack of housing compared to the amount of people who want them) then they should 100% make an FC and take one of those. Does it suck? Yes, it does. Especially if you're an FC interested in a house for yourselves... but they aren't really to blame when the entire system has been a complete and utter catastrophe from day 1.

A significant chunk of the game is locked behind RNG. That is not fair. End of story, end of topic, discussion, whatever. Even worse is that the only reason housing isn't instanced is because Yoshi-P obsesses with the idea of neighborhoods filled with players... and yet you never see them because they all just teleport to their front yard and run inside. There is no neighborhood. It might as well be an old sims game with how empty it is.

[Amenara]

I love how every new idea is to punish players for SE being dead set on a failing ideal for "community" feel in neighborhoods instead of complaining at the people who are at fault for the failures in the housing system. Blame SE for being stubborn and unwilling to "innovate" (or just do what most other games with housing have done) in their game.

[LaylaTsarra]

I love how every new idea is to punish players for SE being dead set on a failing ideal for "community" feel in neighborhoods instead of complaining at the people who are at fault for the failures in the housing system. Blame SE for being stubborn and unwilling to "innovate" (or just do what most other games with housing have done) in their game.

The take away crowd works hard to come up with new ideas to punish those who follow the rules. I'm not excusing RMT for multiple purchases and it's on SE to fix this so those with small FC stop getting a bad name as a result. One can never be sure what SE is going to do especially after adding lotto but I sincerely doubt they'll do anything retroactively to hurt people who followed the rules.

Long overdue for them to address the demand either by adding a sizeable amount of new wards or instanced housing. Allowing account wide access for alts to houses you own needs to be a thing as well.

[Imora]

Community feel, despite my FC ward 5 being devoid of houses.

[Avoidy]

Square's a two billion dollar company. They can just add more wards. They've done it before. What we need, that they can actually do for us right now, are more wards. I know from personal experience how cathartic it is to tell some smug cheeky dude with a solo FC made in May to pound sand, but at the end of the day Square can fix everything by just adding more wards. Why they won't, is what we should be asking Square. A live letter addressing these concerns related to housing would be excellent. Also an explanation on why they thought an 18/6 split in favor of FCs was a good idea would be great too.

With housing, it feels like all square does is incentivizes scummy behavior that pits players against each other and brews a lot of resentment. I'm a chill person irl and in game, but even I got kind of resentful when Square basically spent 3 years dangling Ishgard in our faces and then made it so limited that most individual purchasers got screwed. I spent a lot of time feeling resentment towards all these obvious shell FCs (formed in April, 3 members, it's pretty obvious who just made one on the day of the announcement), but now I try not to because it's not productive and at the end of the day they're stuck in a dead FC for an empty house that's anchoring them to a game with 4-month content droughts. And even in the clicking era, I'd see people sat at their PC clicking for hours, some peeing in bottles, others abusing scripts, whatever it takes for a house with a bad decorating system baked into it and a furniture cap so small that they have to wall off the upstairs. The system is terrible from an availability standpoint and it's abysmal from a basic usability standpoint. Nobody should be killing themselves for this garbage. But by creating a scarcity that doesn't have to exist, Square pits people against each other for something that's pretty poorly implemented, especially compared to how other games handle housing and decoration. I'm not pretending to be immune to this anger either; you can look at my post history. I pop off on people in the housing forums because they basically went "got mine" and then show up to troll and make stupid kindergarten-tier arguments, but being mad at idiots isn't productive. We need to be asking current-year Square Enix why they aren't just adding more wards when the game -- by their own admission -- is doing really really well financially. And when I say asking Square, I mean asking Square. Because I know someone's going to reply to this with their best educated guess, citing a translated interview from 2015 or something, and that's not what I'm after. I just want a live letter where they stop for a minute and Yoshi goes "oh yes, here is why we thought it was a brilliant decision to have an 18/6 split and incentivize the creation of cancerous solo FCs that have led to dead FC wards and loads of resentment, please understand."