6.2 Hrothgar Update

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They need to work on content that is sustainable/replayable first before worrying about ears.

A race is sustainable content, though. You can't even access stuff without making a character.

Hrothgar were never planned to have SHARED hair, hair that other races have. They were also not designed to be able to change their own hair outside of $10 potions. The plan was to add new heads with unique Hrothgar "Manes" and have people pay $10 to potion to them.

See, you had me until the fantasia bit. That we wouldn't have shared hair is fine, a lot of people want race-exclusive hair since stuff wouldn't otherwise look good on a lion face.
But if that's the model they're going with, despite the fact that no other race had to buy fantasias to do it, then wow Square Enix is ten times worse than I ever thought. And I had to endure All the Bravest!

Like, I know they're not that good. The CEO wants NFTs, and Tabata was fired unfairly. But let it be clear: if that was their intention, then that's just predatory. If no other race had to go through it, then yeah, it's discrimination.

A lot of the male's problems just naturally shouldn't be expected on the females. We have 2 full new races to look at, neither Viera nor Au Ra have both genders made from the same base race's body type. So Body wise, I expect them to be a taller version of literally ANY non-Femroe female. Hunch? Design wise that's a non-starter for females seeing as anything with boobs being hunched is a pain in the butt to animate/ design for/ model for and looks unappealing af so that's not happening. Heads? Outside lala, every female in this game has far less face diversity than their male counterparts.

Ehhh, I'm detecting a little bias there. You really think they won't be hunched over femroes? Do you really? :^)

Ok but no really, considering how Hrothgar are made at the moment, I do think they will be femroes. Like, who knows, they'll break the mold. Don't let that be an indication of much.

Also, stuff being unappealing is to be expected.

Yeah, perhaps initially after launch they did think racial specific hairs would work, but, obviously, considering the recent official reply from Yoshida on how these hairs would take significantly longer, I feel like that's the actual reason why: it would be too much work. Shared hairs are easier to implement and they were supposed to appease people wanting them. Why Yoshida was "surprised" there was such backlash over the hrothgar hairs.

I don't think people are understanding the situation.

A) We KNOW it would take time to make Race-exclusive hair. Not just to make the 3D model, but design it to begin with.
B) We KNOW that just converting stuff over is easier, albeit still a mess to go through.

The issue isn't there, though. The issue was them converting stuff in such a shoddy way and picking the absolute worst ones. That is why he had such a backlash.


The rest I can say is just... "I hope he understands people who play Hrothgar do take the game seriously and that we don't want to be discriminated. We understand it's hard, but after so much crap aimed at us, we've had enough. And that sentiment is valid and understandable. You can't just expect a portion of the playerbase that's felt miserable for the past 3 years because a) the devs ignore it and b) the community trashes it, to not feel absolutely gutted when the only content we asked for is presented to us like we're a laughing stock."