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  1. #21
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    BaconBits's Avatar
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    Arya Diavolos
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    Famfrit
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    Paladin Lv 98
    While y'all were busy dealing with players that suddenly become brain dead at the sight of a QTE, I bamboozled my party into thinking I was going to LB3 for the phase transition.

    As a Black Mage.

    Needless to say I was howling when neither tank popped LB3 and we wiped. I feel bad for the player that went from "" when I said I got it to "..." afterwards lol.
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  2. #22
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    Imora's Avatar
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Okay I don't know why this is happening as often as it does, but over half the seat of sacrifice runs I've gotten into on roulette always end up getting stuck on the button mashing part because someone can't get past that one portion of the fight where everyone gets chained.

    I don't think this is a hard mini-game to do, but maybe people on controller have serious trouble with the button smashing part? I've had to leave two of them after several attempts, and I mean several, trying to get past it and just having the same result each time.
    You're blaming controller when all I gotta do is mash X.

    Lol.
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  3. #23
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The "button mash" part only requires you to press any button about 3 times per second. When the meter is really low a single press restores about 1/3 of the meter.

    It's not a real button mash; it's just a panic check. It's purposely meant to look difficult while not actually being difficult. People mash their buttons faster than 3x per second when trying to queue a combat action that's about to come off cooldown.
    Yeah which is why I'm dumbfounded as to how someone is failing the same check more than three times (Last week it was 12 times in trial roulette in the same run. We never finished that run). This has been happening in a streak going through that fight and I'm about to stick my tin-foil hat on and begin thinking someone is trying to get past this on a bot or is trolling people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    You're blaming controller when all I gotta do is mash X.

    Lol.
    I don't use controller so I don't know how hard it is on that, hence the question mark on my original post.
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  4. #24
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    Victor Spoils
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    Coeurl
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    Someone failing the QTE for 4-5 times in a row after tanks don't get the timing right once was my expirience way more often than actual misstiming of LB. Complete wipe on QTE was a mistake to begin with.
    I thought it was an auto-wipe if someone was dead, but Elidibus is nice enough to revive everyone for it.
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  5. #25
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It might just be someone wary about damaging their keyboard/mouse. Although I can't prove it, I had a Logitech G502 mouse and later that day after having one of those quicktime events the left click started becoming spongy and I ended up having to get a new mouse.

    If I get seat of sacrifice come up in a roulette I just take the 30 minute penalty. It's not worth destroying my mouse over it and the alternative is repeatedly wipe the entire group which isn't going to go down well.

    Although mice (or keyboard) are designed to be pressed repeatedly, that's under normal circumstances, not rapid mashing which drastically increases their lifespan.

    To those that say use the keyboard instead... they are probably more durable in this respect (compared to how the mouse click actually works), but every time I've tried on keyboard I've just got stuck in the chat and/or didn't work and it's not like you can just go somewhere to practice this.

    They just need to outright remove this "mechanic" or at least use it like they did with Cruise Chaser where you just have to click one time, to get off the thing or die.
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  6. #26
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    Caitlinzulu's Avatar
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 100
    I very much doubt you can damage your keyboard or mouse just by clicking it for a qte. At least if you click normally and not ram your finger down on the key it will not decrease the lifespan of your device

    Also while some seem to be close calls they are actually programmed that pressing faster then whats required doesnt give you any advantage at all.
    Cant say i failed a qte unless my mind was afk
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  7. #27
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu View Post
    I very much doubt you can damage your keyboard or mouse just by clicking it for a qte. At least if you click normally and not ram your finger down on the key it will not decrease the lifespan of your device
    The very nature of the quicktime events like this make you click as fast as possible. When you do this you will automatically click much harder than you would normally click (because your finger simply presses further than it needs to each time and you're pressing it beyond the point it needs to be pressed).

    Yes if you click normally you wouldn't damage the device (outside its normal wear and tear), but then you also will fail the event...

    Mouse click buttons are very basic, in most cases they're little pieces of metal bent over a button and it's supposed to spring back each time, but if pushed too hard they can and will stop working. Either they stay down for too long (don't snap back fast enough) or they don't make a good contact in the first place and your click doesn't always work.

    Sure most people probably get away with it and it doesn't cause them problems, but even then it's going to be shortening the lifespan.
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  8. #28
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    What I don't get about this fight is why it even has that condition in the first place.

    Shinryu doesn't wipe you if one person refuses to play ball. So why are we punishing 7 other people and making trolling easier to do?
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  9. #29
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    Doc Seraph
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Seat of Sacrifice reads like a post night of libation and tacos kupo <3
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    Kupo!

  10. #30
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by worldofneil View Post
    The very nature of the quicktime events like this make you click as fast as possible. When you do this you will automatically click much harder than you would normally click (because your finger simply presses further than it needs to each time and you're pressing it beyond the point it needs to be pressed).

    Yes if you click normally you wouldn't damage the device (outside its normal wear and tear), but then you also will fail the event...

    Mouse click buttons are very basic, in most cases they're little pieces of metal bent over a button and it's supposed to spring back each time, but if pushed too hard they can and will stop working. Either they stay down for too long (don't snap back fast enough) or they don't make a good contact in the first place and your click doesn't always work.

    Sure most people probably get away with it and it doesn't cause them problems, but even then it's going to be shortening the lifespan.
    You don‘t need to mash that hard tho, normal typing speed is fine.

    As long as you press one button after the other…

    „Fill the bar“ QTEs need more mashing than „dont let it empty“.

    If you tell others they dont need to mash and somebody still doesnt manage multiple times they‘re griefing, simple as that.
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