It's clear SE doesn't care and Samurai will not be reverted in 6.2

[Ransu]

I do believe that the damage is supposed to be roughly the same. Not having to do Kaiten also means being able to do more Shinten, and that keeps me busy. When I played SAM after the changes, I had heard about all the backlash and feared what the job had become. But my personal testing found that the change feels quite good. I know that people disagree, but the important question is whether people disagree whether because the change is bad, or because they don't want to change to a new play style. Imagine how I feel then, as a MNK for nearly a decade, when greased lightning was removed, and then MNK was changed to using Master's Gauge. Of course there are MNKs who hate what the job is like now, I'm simply not one of them. So my advice to SAM mains is this: don't force yourselves to play SAM if you just cannot agree to the changes. But if you're going to critique it, you're also going to have to accept that people might like the change in spite of what you think.

More shinten is literally one of the core problems....We're just spamming it and its something the devs themselves said back during SB they didn't want us doing which is why they removed hagakure initially in ShB.

The overall damage is 3% less than prior to 6.1 and gekko/kasha doing nearly as much damage as a midare doesn't feel good, especially when the auto crits are basically doing the same damage as a normal hit for midare prior to 6.1. Its not JUST the removal of kaiten, its the overall feel. The build up of big damage is gone, the kenki management is gone, its just....boring now. There's no big hits anymore and its just a boring spam of shinten. Why do we even have a kenki gauge still? I can almost guarantee gyoten is going to have its damage removed and placed on some stupid charged skill in a later update to further make kenki useless because currently right now instead of kaiten we're using gyoten in the rotation.

This does not seem right. You had to waste time Kaitening in front of every iaijutsu, and you have to use up kenki for Shinten. Calling kenki a pointless resource is a gross exaggeration.

Shinten is being used in the exact same spots kaiten was being used in the large majority of the time with gyoten mixed in to get rid of excess kenki, especially during the opener after popping ishikoten. If you're not doing that then you're holding on to too much kenki. So yes, the APM is nearly identical.