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    KurenXIV's Avatar
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    Kuren Karashi
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    Siren
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    Ninja Lv 100

    It's clear SE doesn't care and Samurai will not be reverted in 6.2

    I knew SAM wouldn't be reverted to its previous FUN style of play in 6.15 but the silence is beyond deafening at this point.

    It's very clear they have no desire to change SAM back to how it was.

    If they were going to do so for 6.2 we would know by now. They have no problem saying when specific things will be fixed or adjusted and it would have only taken a moment to add that for SAM.

    They knew what they were doing during the live stream and they know what they are doing now. They simply don't care or respect the player base. We've seen this with healers, we've seen this with tanks and now we see it with DPS.

    It's really sad to see the game go this way. If 6.2 doesn't at least have interesting and good content then I'm out for the foreseeable future. I can take lackluster content while having a fun job to play or great content with a not so fun job to play but not both.
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    Last edited by KurenXIV; 06-08-2022 at 07:35 AM.

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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    DRG NIN MNK are next in line to get auto crit.
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    DRG NIN MNK are next in line to get auto crit.
    Bootshine: "Always has been."
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    DRG NIN MNK are next in line to get auto crit.
    I'd at least be in favor of making Chakra more predictable.
    I don't think it's good design when you end up in random situations where you lose part of your resource.
    Which is a thing with Chakra, there are situations where you will overcap unless you wanna clip gcd's.
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    Kana Kharanku
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I can't believe people actually expected major class overhauls from a minor patch.
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    Asiago Kaseladen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flana View Post
    I can't believe people actually expected major class overhauls from a minor patch.
    People expected them to roll back mistakes or at least address they’ve made one. Crazy I know
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaseladen View Post
    People expected them to roll back mistakes or at least address they’ve made one. Crazy I know
    The changes to SAM were pretty major....I don't expect any potential adjustments until 6.2.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    The changes to SAM were pretty major....I don't expect any potential adjustments until 6.2.
    Stop with this. Oh no its 6.1x patch devs cant revert SAM changes. OFC THEY CAN AND SHOULD.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Bootshine: "Always has been."
    Phantom rush and stuff that gives you solar/lunar nadi will be auto crit by devs logic

    Quote Originally Posted by Flana View Post
    I can't believe people actually expected major class overhauls from a minor patch.
    Yes from minor patch as 6.1 that gives no new savage tier i didnt expected major class overhaul.
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    Last edited by Stasya; 06-08-2022 at 02:45 PM.

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    Kirya Nordrain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Stop with this. Oh no its 6.1x patch devs cant revert SAM changes. OFC THEY CAN AND SHOULD.



    Phantom rush and stuff that gives you solar/lunar nadi will be auto crit by devs logic



    Yes from minor patch as 6.1 that gives no new savage tier i didnt expected major class overhaul.
    I love oversimplification in this. At this point devs are primarily consistent. Big changes, overhauls etc. Happen in milestone/decimal patches with only minor tweaks at best happening in between those. Should the changes be reverted, probably. Don't really have horse in this race since when the patch dropped I was still in ARR so I wouldn't be able to use Kaiten in content regardless.

    Calling 6.1 a minor patch solely because it didn't include new savage tier is disingenuous at best and just lying at worst. Outside of new Alliance Raid and new Ultimate Raid we had an overhaul to PvP and introduction of new mode, implantation of Duty Support for ARR and reworking the finale of the finale of 2.0. Yup definitely minor unimportant patch.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    Stop with this. Oh no its 6.1x patch devs cant revert SAM changes. OFC THEY CAN AND SHOULD.



    Phantom rush and stuff that gives you solar/lunar nadi will be auto crit by devs logic



    Yes from minor patch as 6.1 that gives no new savage tier i didnt expected major class overhaul.
    Are you new to this game? SE is very slow at making adjustments to jobs and they definitely don't make large adjustments in the middle of a content tier which right now is DSR. Expecting them to make any changes in such a small content patch such as 6.15 is simply a misjudgment on your part. Wait for 6.2 and if they don't make any changes by then, we can come to the conclusion that this is how SAM will continue going forward and decide if we want to keep playing or switch jobs. I personally will likely just go back to DRG for the next raid tier.

    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    It's almost like the changes to SAM, are here to stay, perhaps it's time to jump on some other bandwagon job.
    I'm not making that statement till after 6.2. They removed hagakure in ShB and we got it back later in the expansion so its not like the chances of sam getting kaiten back is zero at this time. Its just most of us logically understood we're still in the middle of a raid tier and they are not going to make any major adjustments until the next major patch.
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