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    Minerva Goldwinne
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahimahi View Post
    I didn't like Kaiten and it's one of the reasons why I don't seriously play SAM today. And it actually ties in to how Iaijutsu feels, which I felt as though it was just a tad too long where you cannot move or else you interrupt the channeling. So to put Kaiten in front of every Iaijutsu and I almost feel like I'm watching grass grow. I admit it, I'm too used to the spammy dancing monkey nonsense of MNK to have the patience to play SAM, so removing Kaiten and just weaving in more instant casts just felt right to me.

    Just a note to all, I am NOT SAYING that your preference to seeing Kaiten exist is wrong. But it feels as though many SAM fanatics don't hear enough from outside the job. Probably at the end of the day you'll all disregard my remarks, but at least I tried to provide a counter-opinion, hopefully as respectfully as possible.
    I'm going to pick this comment to go with. But what you said ties in exactly to what I called samurai in other threads: A discount half-assed monk in its current iteration. And that is the problem samurai has, it lost its identity and assumed another one. Because it's so much like monk, why would you play the shittier version when the real version is available too? We have 5 melee roles, each plays differently from the other, with the exception of samurai now. Sure samurai still has little quirks, but it largely flows the same as monk. Practically down to a flowchart if someone wanted to make that for samurai. Forbidden chakra, roughly the same usage with only minor variation in timing due to chakras being gained differently. A blitz can just be an iaijutus, only less frequent and much stronger. Not a 1 to 1 copy but eerily similar.

    Which goes to my second question: Why do you like samurai, because it...Plays like monk? If that's the case, then why not...Just play monk? This is the crux of your entire argument, and as much as offering counter opinions is nice, you're simply asking for one job to be too similar to your other job. It's hard to argue successfully from that position when others can simply point out you're simply aiming to copy another thing that already exists. We're looking for variety, not sameness. And that concept's worrying the community as a whole with the next round of "balance" patches coming up in 6.2.
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    Last edited by Ruminous; 06-15-2022 at 09:58 PM. Reason: Fixed grammar to clear up a point