Housing sucks rn!

[Shibi]

there is two houses left on my server. it will have over 500 votes.

To save you time and help you out there are a few more than two. On your server (personals only) are this:

Mist, Ward 20, Plot 12 - 54 entries
Mist, Ward 20, Plot 39 - 48 entries
Mist, Ward 20, Plot 57 - 44 entries
The Lavender Beds, Ward 22, Plot 50 - 75 entries
The Goblet, Ward 19, Plot 45 - 43 entries
The Goblet, Ward 20, Plot 27 - 39 entries
The Goblet, Ward 21, Plot 52 - 33 entries
Shirogane, Ward 19, Plot 41 - 28 entries
Shirogane, Ward 20, Plot 3 - 88 entries
Shirogane, Ward 21, Plot 50 - 29 entries

Please do use this list in a few days near the end of the round and quickly head around to look which one either suits you best, or gives you the best chance. I suggest best chance and upgrade later is the way to get a home over "only the one that is nicest".

i just want a house! im so depressed and wish i had a FUing house so i can enjoy it and RP like people with houses get to!!!

Far from perfect, and they have limits, I know, but do you have an apartment so far? That is a salve to keep you going at least. You will get lucky, just gotta stay as positive as you can.

[ballprince]

Because that's the game you agreed to play when you bought (and every time you renew) your subscription.

A player needs both work (to get gil) and luck to get a house, and once they do, it's essentially just a trophy to put on the shelf and hang ribbons on. Not everyone gets that trophy, but what did the Rolling Stones say?
"You can't always get what you want."

This point is so tired, and I'm really tired of hearing it. They're not just trophys to everyone, sorry to burst that bubble. They're rp hubs. They're places to hang out, take pictures, to decorate.

It is kinda funny to see the people flocking to this thread to essentially just belittle people who've been butting their head against not just one system for a year+ and defend it like this.

[Silverbane]

This point is so tired, and I'm really tired of hearing it. They're not just trophys to everyone, sorry to burst that bubble. They're rp hubs. They're places to hang out, take pictures, to decorate.

You can do that in an apartment. And no one is complaining about not being able to get an apartment.

Just because you want something, that doesn't mean you're entitled to it.
Just because someone else has something, that doesn't mean you're entitled to it.
The game is the game, housing mini-game included, and that's what you signed up for.
It's fine to suggest changes, but bitching and whining about the rules of the game you chose to play, about the rules you agreed to play by, is behavior usually associated with spoiled children. I wouldn't expect any actual adults to take it seriously, much less for the developers to do so.

I have a goal to get a personal medium, to have a place all my spouse's alts can use, something that isn't possible with my spouse's current personal house. I'm fully aware of the poor odds that I'll succeed in the present market for housing, but I intend to try anyway: nothing to lose by trying. And I have plenty of time to try.

But I don't think I'm entitled to that house. I'm not upset that it will be difficult to get, if I ever even do.
The fact that achieving a goal in a game it isn't easy or guaranteed is for me part of what makes that goal worth the attempt.

[ballprince]

You can do that in an apartment. And no one is complaining about not being able to get an apartment.

Just because you want something, that doesn't mean you're entitled to it.
Just because someone else has something, that doesn't mean you're entitled to it.
The game is the game, housing mini-game included, and that's what you signed up for.
It's fine to suggest changes, but bitching and whining about the rules of the game you chose to play, about the rules you agreed to play by, is behavior usually associated with spoiled children. I wouldn't expect any actual adults to take it seriously, much less for the developers to do so.

I have a goal to get a personal medium, to have a place all my spouse's alts can use, something that isn't possible with my spouse's current personal house. I'm fully aware of the poor odds that I'll succeed in the present market for housing, but I intend to try anyway: nothing to lose by trying. And I have plenty of time to try.

But I don't think I'm entitled to that house. I'm not upset that it will be difficult to get, if I ever even do.
The fact that achieving a goal in a game it isn't easy or guaranteed is for me part of what makes that goal worth the attempt.

Why do you keep clinging to that point? I literally said nothing about entitlement. I don't know why you are so hard on this kick of us all being entitled. If I felt so entitled I'd be doing more than posting in a forum, don't you think?

I know I'm not "entitled" to a house. I can still complain about a system that is in my opinion not working.

"but bitching and whining about the rules of the game you chose to play, about the rules you agreed to play by"? These are valid points, you just don't agree. And that is fine. Don't treat people like children because you don't agree with them. Isn't polite conduct part of the rules you agreed to?
Have a good night.

[Silverbane]

Why do you keep clinging to that point? I literally said nothing about entitlement.

You tried the lottery three times, lost three times, and announced that you were quitting because "the system is broken." But if you'd won, would you be here complaining about the system?

That's why I think you feel entitled to a house: because you act like you do.

I've bid on houses four times and lost every time.
I'm fine with that, and will no doubt bid again when the right opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to see what happened if some of the people complaining about a lottery for a cosmetic item in a game wound up looking for a real house in a hot market. The real world of real estate if far crueler than this game could ever be, especially in the last two years. We helped some friends with young kids get themselves a house back in fall of 2020, and thank goodness we did! Even with the substantial assistance we gave them, they could never afford the house they have now in today's market.

So excuse me if I have no sympathy for people who melt down over their inability to get a giant glamour item in a freaking game.

[ballprince]

You tried the lottery three times, lost three times, and announced that you were quitting because "the system is broken." But if you'd won, would you be here complaining about the system?

That's why I think you feel entitled to a house: because you act like you do.

I've bid on houses four times and lost every time.
I'm fine with that, and will no doubt bid again when the right opportunity presents itself.

I'd love to see what happened if some of the people complaining about a lottery for a cosmetic item in a game wound up looking for a real house in a hot market. The real world of real estate if far crueler than this game could ever be, especially in the last two years. We helped some friends with young kids get themselves a house back in fall of 2020, and thank goodness we did! Even with the substantial assistance we gave them, they could never afford the house they have now in today's market.

So excuse me if I have no sympathy for people who melt down over their inability to get a giant glamour item in a freaking game.

I'm not asking you to have sympathy. I'm using the forums to express my discontent with a system I have access to try. I don't even know why you bring up the IRL housing market as if that matters to my point. They are two entirely different things LMAO. "Melt down"? Sorry you came into my forum post and felt the need to comment. You literally are not obligated to argue with me about how I feel about housing and what I do with it.

Also, if you'd read up further in the thread, I'd already mentioned to someone who gave me polite feedback without belittling me and equating my using the forum as intended to having a meltdown, you could have seen where I said if my numbers truly matter to show how many people want housing, I'd reconsider. I'm an adult who can weigh my own choices, just as you should when commenting on other threads and projecting your negativity onto other you disagree with.

[Silverbane]

I'd already mentioned to someone who gave me polite feedback without belittling me

Oh, am I belittling you like you did people who disagree with you? E.g.:

It is kinda funny to see the people flocking to this thread to essentially just belittle people who've been butting their head against not just one system for a year+ and defend it like this.

The system is fine. You, with your try-three-times-then-quit-and-complain attitude, are the problem.

I'm an adult

As has long been noted: on the Internet, no one can tell you're not a dog.

projecting your negativity

Oh, so saying the housing system is fine as it is (other than needing demolition resumed) is "projecting negativity" now? I'm happy, you're upset, and yet I'm the one who is negative?

Oh, and tell us, oh little prince: why can't you be happy with an apartment?
Are you entitled to bigger?

[ballprince]

Oh, am I belittling you like you did people who disagree with you? E.g.:

The system is fine. You, with your try-three-times-then-quit-and-complain attitude, are the problem.

As has long been noted: on the Internet, no one can tell you're not a dog.


Oh, so saying the housing system is fine as it is (other than needing demolition resumed) is "projecting negativity" now? I'm happy, you're upset, and yet I'm the one who is negative?

Oh, and tell us, oh little prince: why can't you be happy with an apartment?
Are you entitled to bigger?

Would appreciate you not calling me names, first off. "Oh, and tell us, oh little prince: why can't you be happy with an apartment? Are you entitled to bigger?" I don't see how finding something funny is belitting others by any means, nor am I particularly mad rn. You came onto my forum post and chose to be rude, just like you're doing right now.

"As has long been noted: on the Internet, no one can tell you're not a dog." This literally means nothing. You're just being facetious.

I'm gonna continue speaking my mind about housing whether you think it "works fine" or not. Have a nice day!

[Silverbane]

You came onto my forum post ...

"Onto my forum post" isn't a sensible English phrase.
But to the extent any meaning can be derived from it ... what, do you think you OWN this thread, because you started it?

"As has long been noted: on the Internet, no one can tell you're not a dog." This literally means nothing.

Ah, too deep for you, was it? It's simple: you can claim to be "an adult," as you have, or a dog, or whatever, and on the Internet, no one can tell whether you're really just a NEET living in their parent's basement.

I'm gonna continue speaking my mind about housing whether you think it "works fine" or not.

Did I ever tell you not to? Go ahead, spew forth your negativity with reckless abandon.

[Lexi_Krallphekter]

In my humble opinion, I feel the lottery system is far better than the previous system.

What SE should do in my opnion are 2 things:

• Reduce the FC wards
• Reenable auto-demonlish. I am myself from Ukraine but I live in the comfort of Belgium now and I feel the decision to suspend auto-demolition for the following reason: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8b104d6a595126 was not a correct one. It was a nice gesture. A war in my home country should not have being the reason for this decision.

Edit: I heard the main issue for adding more wards is the server capacity, if 1 person is in a ward, the whole ward is loaded onto the server. So maybe a 3rd thing SE could do, buy more servers? I think we shouldn't be cry babies in the first place and try too be reasonable. SE already did a massive server upgrade with EW. I feel they deserve some breathing and let them analyse future data too see if housing servers could eventually be upgraded? I am little bit tired of seeing soo much crying on this forum