Housing sucks rn!

[Jojoya]

The one house per server rule works fine for privates it's FC's they need to fix.

Not really. If the game has 2 million active accounts as some estimate but only 525,600 houses, that's already almost 1.5 million accounts that won't be able to get a house.

If FCs own 30% of the available houses, that increases the number of accounts that can't get a house to over 1.6 million.

For every personal house over one that a player owns on their account (even if on different servers), that's one less player able to get a house. True it's a relatively small number compared to the unmet demand yet it's still helping to increase it.

I'm not blaming the players who are playing by the rules. It's human nature to take advantage of what opportunities we're allowed and owning multiple houses per service account is allowed by SE.

I blame SE not creating a system that would either prevent players from owning more than one house or would allow every player the opportunity to own multiple houses if they desired.

Sometimes I wish RIFT had more to offer than just a great housing system. There was a very active housing-focused community there despite it being 100% instanced because every player who wanted to own multiple Dimensions to decorate could have them. No one said "but muh empty neighborhoods - don't add moar housing for others so muh empty neighborhoods can keep feeling special".

[Raxous]

there is two houses left on my server. it will have over 500 votes. who will win? one person.
what happens next round? no houses left because no autodemo.
hey a new player can just take a win and an old player loses every house because they have bad rng, ''oh wait sorry there is no bad luck rng guys. just suffer and try win a house for over 5 years.. MAYBE ONE DAY YOU WILL GET ONE, JUST KEEP TRYING 5HEAD.''.
no fix this now, clicking was better and higher chance. you had to work for the house, now people just bid , including new players, its so unfair. i just want a house! im so depressed and wish i had a FUing house so i can enjoy it and RP like people with houses get to!!!
I pay sub fee and shop items just like every other player, so how come they get to have a house!? and i dont? I do everything to try get one and lose every single time, thanks for caring about your player base. this wont be fixed for another 6 years. you guys take so long to try fix things its a joke.

[LaylaTsarra]

If FCs own 30% of the available houses, that increases the number of accounts that can't get a house to over 1.6 million.

It's the multiple FC ownership that needs to be fixed. How they do that I don't know. And yes it's a overall supply issue eliminating FC abuse won't fix the overall problem because in spite of that there won't be enough houses for everyone.

People playing by the rules shouldn't be penalized however they need to insure the rules allow for the intent of one personal and one FC per server and that's not happening. In addition to that they need to find a way to either massively increase the number of wards or find a way to implement instanced housing alongside the current ward structure.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

The situation with the lottery, and even the previous system of constant clicking, is just the effect of the root problem. There are not, and never will be, enough plots for all players. This concept of wanting a "community neighborhood" for their housing system is the problem. It should not be the only option in existence for the housing available to players.

They can even fix all the other little issues players have with the system, and it still wouldn't solve that root problem. Stripping away the grandfathered wards owned by 1 player still only put a small amount of plots on the market. Once that lottery cycle passes, we're back where we started.

There needs to be a second option, and no, apartments/private FC rooms are not the answer. There needs to be an instanced private housing system for people that want it, where you can use outdoor furniture as well, not just indoor. There needs to be something that alleviates the pressure OFF of the shared housing wards.

That being said, there are a few things I feel they could do to help issues that a lot of people feel.

1) Strip the grandfathered wards for demo. Sorry, but this is just flat out ridiculous at this point. 1 person should not have a full ward. It needs to go. Let them keep a large plot there and demo/open up all the other plots for private, not for FC.
2) Controversial, but I feel that there should be a system in place for the lottery that the longer you sub, at certain milestones, you should be able to buy a second ticket in a lottery to increase your chances. FC's already have a way to increase your odds by multiple members submitting for the same plot. Sure, some may think this is unfair to new players, but on the flipside how fair is it against players who have been around for years and still come up empty every single housing cycle? I'd think something like every 360 days subbed should get you an extra ticket to increase your chances.
3) Lottery cycle should be shorter. Not insanely shorter, but the period right now I feel is too far skewed on the longer end.
4) Demo timer should never, ever be turned off unless something major is occurring like an expansion launch that stresses the log in queues.
5) The split between FC only wards to Private wards is too far skewed towards FC. It should be 50/50. Before everyone gets out their pitchforks and torches, consider this. Entire wards are sitting near empty on the FC side, and all this is doing while the plots very slowly get sold, are promoting the creation of Dummy FC's. It's already started to happen across servers. Keep in mind, I'm not talking small FC's, I mean Dummy FC's, created for 1 person to get an FC plot. I'm sorry, but that to me is just manipulating the system and skews the viewpoint of the Devs when they'll look at how many/how often FC plots go, and they'll continue to think their current split is fine. These Dummy FC's will eat up almost every plot by the time those FC wards will be opened to private buyers.

Still though, nothing is going to solve the core problem until they decide to add instanced housing. There just are not enough, and never will be enough, plots for everyone.

[Nuggets]

Except, you know damn well you will place a bid in the next lotto...it's just too easy not too. Only thing that will change are your expectations

[Greyhawk]

This will absolutely be my last lotto in any way shape or form until something is fixed. I'm tired of going to every plot, seeing 30+ people on ANY GIVEN plot, and knowing my chances will be slim to none. I understand with the demand there is that there will be a lot of people wanting to get in, but it leads me to the question of WHY?

Why is this artificial demand even HERE? To everyone who will say "Oh but you have apartments!" Yeah, thanks, I sure do want the dumbed down, baby version of the system that I cannot use outdoor furniture in, nor more than like what, 20 pieces of furniture? Apartment sizes and restrictions are a joke, and they are certainly not a fix to this housing problem right now.

It feels like, to me, the lottery is just worse off. Sure, I really appreciate not having to sit and click a plaque for hours, but this isn't much better if you ask me!

I really hope sooner rather than later they fix the split between FC and Personals. It feels really bad to go into FC wards, see them empty or see everyone who was grandfathered into the system. I'm not particularly upset abt the grandfathering, in most cases, but it still is frustrating to see. This is a draw for a LOT of people to this game at end game!

Also, I don't really want to hear "Well housing started as FC only!" I don't care what it started as. I care about the needs and wants of people within the game IN CURRENT YEAR.

TLDR: Lost my housing for the third time and this is my last lotto until they fix the system. It is NOT working.

Actually, it is working. Just not how you want it to turn out.

[Silverbane]

TLDR: Lost my housing for the third time ...

1. It wasn't your house. It was the housing plot you wanted.
2. You didn't lose anything but the time it took you to enter and then get your deposit back. Which is probably less time than you spent complaining about it in the forum.

[Silverbane]

I pay sub fee and shop items just like every other player, so how come they get to have a house!?

Because that's the game you agreed to play when you bought (and every time you renew) your subscription.

A player needs both work (to get gil) and luck to get a house, and once they do, it's essentially just a trophy to put on the shelf and hang ribbons on. Not everyone gets that trophy, but what did the Rolling Stones say?
"You can't always get what you want."

[Greyhawk]

Because that's the game you agreed to play when you bought (and every time you renew) your subscription.

A player needs both work (to get gil) and luck to get a house, and once they do, it's essentially just a trophy to put on the shelf and hang ribbons on. Not everyone gets that trophy, but what did the Rolling Stones say?
"You can't always get what you want."

^ This. Paying a subscription fee is not entitlement. You are paying for access to an online game, and any additional 'add-ons' that may incur an additional fee to your subscription.

I pay sub fee and shop items just like every other player, so how come they get to have a house!? and i dont? I do everything to try get one and lose every single time, thanks for caring about your player base. this wont be fixed for another 6 years. you guys take so long to try fix things its a joke.

I really think you need to start reading and understanding exactly what a subscription is if you are going to try and use it to justify your sense of entitlement, because the User Agreement completely contradicts what you think you are entitled to here. You own nothing.

[Divinemights]

there is two houses left on my server. it will have over 500 votes. who will win? one person.
what happens next round? no houses left because no autodemo.
hey a new player can just take a win and an old player loses every house because they have bad rng, ''oh wait sorry there is no bad luck rng guys. just suffer and try win a house for over 5 years.. MAYBE ONE DAY YOU WILL GET ONE, JUST KEEP TRYING 5HEAD.''.
no fix this now, clicking was better and higher chance. you had to work for the house, now people just bid , including new players, its so unfair. i just want a house! im so depressed and wish i had a FUing house so i can enjoy it and RP like people with houses get to!!!
I pay sub fee and shop items just like every other player, so how come they get to have a house!? and i dont? I do everything to try get one and lose every single time, thanks for caring about your player base. this wont be fixed for another 6 years. you guys take so long to try fix things its a joke.

There will be another plot release that is what is next.
I highly doubt they will just do one release after 5.0 population surge.