Turn Housing Demolition on

[Batbrat]

"Some people are abusing the system" isn't a good enough excuse to screw over those who are not abusing it

Who's getting screwed over? For the majority of the time housing has been available, we all had it under the rule that if you stopped playing the game, you would lose the house. Was everyone during all those times getting screwed over then? I would understand that, right..I know that it must suck. However, if its now a situation where its cruel that anyone loses a house ever, then it needs to be put out in writing that everyone gets to have their house and no longer has to subbed to keep it.

Again. They can be honest and let us all know that hey, housing demolition is a thing of the past! You can all stop paying us and we wont get rid of it. (which they wont want to do, because money). Or they can just turn it back on and continue to collect their money that way. Either way, we as players do have the right to know how its going to work. Can we win a house and then unsub until expansions only? or if we win a house, will we be tied to this payment? If we're trying to get a house, will there be this steady stream of houses available or are we just out of houses until the next ward update? If you think players shouldnt know any of this, why? Do you think SE can never do wrong and players should keep their mouths shut?

Also, are we going to keep it off until the next natural disaster? Afghanistan's still at war, is it off for them too? Saudi Arabia? There's more than one war going on. What's going to be the time that its turned back on? When all of these wars end? Why do we care so much about one, but not the others? Were you even aware of these wars? Whew, too many questions-

Let's just go ahead and turn that housing demolition back on please!

[dspguy]

Essentially, the mechanism to release houses back to active players is broken. It is off more than it is on. And given the precedent set by SE, it should simply remain off. Find another mechanism by which to get housing to all players.

[Liam_Harper]

With how fierce the competition is now, coupled with an already too limited supply (especially for solo players specifically since they decided to give most of the wards to FCs), turning it back on wouldn't accomplish anything. Even with house or two popping up at random, hundreds/thousands of players would lose the lottery. I say leave it off. It would be nice to see SE being pressured to actually do something about the situation, though I'm not foolish enough to believe that they will.

People don't seem to realize this.

I've seen players harassing other players because they won a plot, leaving nasty messages in their message books, demanding auto-demolition be turned on, suggesting things like taxes, taking houses away from those who have multiple, taking FC priority away and so on... There's a selfish "but I deserve a house more!" mindset with some players where they really just want it to be taken away from someone else and given to them.

There are hundreds of players bidding on single plots. Countless tens of thousands want a house. Even if we took all the above suggestions, we might free up a few thousand and run out of houses immediately.

You still won't get your house even if you rip them away from other players. They're limited. Until they address that with instanced housing or somehow double or even triple the number of plots, that will always be the core issue. Limited supply.

[Archaell]

With how fierce the competition is now, coupled with an already too limited supply (especially for solo players specifically since they decided to give most of the wards to FCs), turning it back on wouldn't accomplish anything.

It would give players hope. Even if just one house opens up that's one less person without a house.

Limited supply is exactly the reason why systems like demolition, FC priority, taxes or other activity based features for upkeep are needed to allow greater number of players to share or take their turn with the scarce resources. Apartment buildings don't have demolitions and look at how awfuly dead they are. Housing districts aren't much better and lack of redistribution doesn't help at all.

I have lost several houses to demolition during my breaks, almost blind so spend my time gil making and buying houses etc, and it's completely fine that those plots are now used by players that actually use them. (Well I hope they do at least).

[Vahlnir]

It would give players hope. Even if just one house opens up that's one less person without a house.

Limited supply is exactly the reason why systems like demolition, FC priority, taxes or other activity based features for upkeep are needed to allow greater number of players to share or take their turn with the scarce resources. Apartment buildings don't have demolitions and look at how awfuly dead they are. Housing districts aren't much better and lack of redistribution doesn't help at all.

I have lost several houses to demolition during my breaks, almost blind so spend my time gil making and buying houses etc, and it's completely fine that those plots are now used by players that actually use them. (Well I hope they do at least).

I'd have to disagree on basically every point here.

[Archaell]

I'd have to disagree on basically every point here.

You are free to do so. Just adding my demoltion based experience to the thread. All players who want demolitions and stuff like that aren't just greedy people hoping to get their mansion (btw. had a mansion before, they are too large, too much empty and depressing for just one person). Some of us just find the solution in sharing the limited plots - would even support removal of personal houses were there systems to make life for one person FC shells difficult to decrease exploiting.

[IDontPetLalas]

So, first of I believe everyone would agree that the housing system is far from perfect and is long overdue for a change. One of the first problems is that people have been frustrated for a while, and putting in a better solution is realistically going to take some time IF SE even decides to do - i.e something like instanced housing.

So, is it really fair for someone not playing to hold onto their house and just log on to keep it? I'm actually going to be honest, I did exactly that in another game BUT - and this is a BIG but- there was no where near the demand for housing in that other game, I only did that when that game was at a very low population. Now ironically, I'm in the position of bidding myself in much, much higher demand.

I just wanted to give that background before I say that as others have said- there will always be serious events going on elsewhere, just as (sadly) people will lose jobs, get seriously ill, go through natural disasters, or die. This is a game folks- its a virtual house. Someone in a war has more serious problems. Yes, I lost my prior house in that other game several times to forced mergers several times, and lost it finally in the end, and I miss my house near the beach, but I got over it. I really, really do understand that it helps people to log in and feel happy . But in the current housing system I don't see that it is fair to keep the pause on.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

People don't seem to realize this.

I've seen players harassing other players because they won a plot, leaving nasty messages in their message books, demanding auto-demolition be turned on, suggesting things like taxes, taking houses away from those who have multiple, taking FC priority away and so on... There's a selfish "but I deserve a house more!" mindset with some players where they really just want it to be taken away from someone else and given to them.

There are hundreds of players bidding on single plots. Countless tens of thousands want a house. Even if we took all the above suggestions, we might free up a few thousand and run out of houses immediately.

You still won't get your house even if you rip them away from other players. They're limited. Until they address that with instanced housing or somehow double or even triple the number of plots, that will always be the core issue. Limited supply.

why are you supporting people with multiple house. Who cares if they grandfathered in. It's called being a selfish sob that doesn't need them. Like Xenos has said they should lose all of their houses and all gil be deleted to be fair. Yes auto demo should always be on and instead of 45 days should 7 days you can't get on not our problem you got issues with your private life.

[Kolsykol]

Just demolish ALL of them and then remove housing.
No more housing no more housing problems huh?

[NekoMataMata]

Housing demolition should have never existed in the first place.

Who are you to decide when a person should lose their house for not logging in and why should you even be able to decide that someone should lose their house because they haven't logged in for a set amount of time?