Turn Housing Demolition on

[Krotoan]

Sure, then lets be fair. Let's do the same about the war in Syria and other countries that are at war at the moment.

None of which have the same global impact. We are being fair.

It speaks a lot to the amount of people frustrated and the poor structuring of housing that y'all'd love to just act like nothings happening so you can get your virtual house..... but yeah.

The globally impacting , exceedingly dangerous to the entire civilized world conflict continues.. lots of people have more to worry about than their FFXIV house and it's a nice gesture that they don't have to.

Sure but if you’re game design choices are going to constantly react to global events, you might as well not make anything.

.. that makes no sense at all. "If you're going to have to change things because of stuff that happens, never do stuff"?

For the majority of the player base, the life and thus the game goes on. Auto demolition and it’s timer are a part of the designed housing system to ensure the limited number of plots don’t become held by people that stop playing (which also doubles up with the fact subscription MMOs have design mechanics to keep you subscribed for as many months as possible). Even if the war ended tomorrow, the consequences will be around for a lot longer after but that doesn’t mean the game can’t function normally with a housing auto demolition system.

Well yes, we COULD ignore all the people affected directly and indirectly who have other concerns with their lives and yeah, you and people like you have absolutely no concerns about the war going on... but I would say there are a lot of other people who do.. and as that concern and effect has not stopped, just saying "well I'm tired of waiting and it doesn't affect me so turn it on" is bluntly, selfish as heck.


honestly rather than turning it back on they should just.. rework housing.

[Stormpeaks]

None of which have the same global impact. We are being fair.

It speaks a lot to the amount of people frustrated and the poor structuring of housing that y'all'd love to just act like nothings happening so you can get your virtual house..... but yeah.

The globally impacting , exceedingly dangerous to the entire civilized world conflict continues.. lots of people have more to worry about than their FFXIV house and it's a nice gesture that they don't have to.

Certainly not, we have to be fair to every war that is going on right now if we stop for one. Period.

[Xirean]

Should we do that for every other war then ? What about the war in Syria and other countries ? Why doesnt that matter ?

Sure go for it. I'm not the one that makes the rule. But I'll support one that makes sense and seems fair.

It would be fair if it was halted for every war that is currently going on, which it isnt.

Then contact the mods about it.

[Stormpeaks]

Sure go for it. I'm not the one that makes the rule. But I'll support one that makes sense and seems fair.

It would be fair if it was halted for every war that is currently going on, which it isnt.

[Krotoan]

Certainly not, we have to be fair to every war that is going on right now if we stop for one. Period.

you're acting like every war affects everyone and everywhere the same.. which they decidedly don't. This isn't just "omg there's a war" .. there are a LOT of effects worldwide if you'd care to pay attention.

[Stormpeaks]

you're acting like every war affects everyone and everywhere the same.. which they decidedly don't. This isn't just "omg there's a war" .. there are a LOT of effects worldwide if you'd care to pay attention.

Bias doesnt work for wars now does it ? You chose who you stand for and who you dont stand for ? Based on what ? People are still dying on those countries, daily, why do they matter less?

[Johners]

Well yes, we COULD ignore all the people affected directly and indirectly who have other concerns with their lives and yeah, you and people like you have absolutely no concerns about the war going on... but I would say there are a lot of other people who do.. and as that concern and effect has not stopped, just saying "well I'm tired of waiting and it doesn't affect me so turn it on" is bluntly, selfish as heck.


honestly rather than turning it back on they should just.. rework housing.

Auto demolition exists for entering valid reasons, I’m simply calling out disabling it for extended periods of time when the majority of the player base are able to login and play fine. Besides, you could throw the selfish argument around for even releasing a content update. Why should we get to play patch 6.1 when there’s people impacted by this war that can’t play at all?

At no point have I disregarded the victims of this war, or any other war, but to constantly adjust game design choices around such events is an simply impossible task, especially when it’s an event that could easily run on for years. Even if you want to call it selfish, there’s all nothing wrong with those of us unaffected enjoying entertainment products to their fullest like nothing happened.

Reworking housing is another discussion entirely and even if they did that, the entire system should still be functioning fully until we reach said future reworked housing system.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Bias doesnt work for wars now does it ? You chose who you stand for and who you dont stand for ? Based on what ? People are still dying on those countries, daily, why do they matter less?

I imagine it's a much simpler reason. They have players from Ukraine, but not Syria.

[Krotoan]

Bias doesnt work for wars now does it ? You chose who you stand for and who you dont stand for ? Based on what ? People are still dying on those countries, daily, why do they matter less?

Simply because they impact less customers. Right now there are Ukrainians (and hey.. probably all the Russians too) who cant play as a direct result. There are also others who have far more real concerns than a FFXIV subscription right now.

Auto demolition exists for entering valid reasons, I’m simply calling out disabling it for extended periods of time when the majority of the player base are able to login and play fine.

Who says? While you and your friend circle may be unaffected, are you a "majority"? Considering there are no hard numbers available this isn't a particularly solid statement to make.

Besides, you could throw the selfish argument around for even releasing a content update. Why should we get to play patch 6.1 when there’s people impacted by this war that can’t play at all?

Patch 6.1 isn't going anywhere though. That content is still available and will BE availible until such time as they decide to remove it.. and IF, at that time , they decide to delay changing it because people had a significantly shorter window to experience it, I'll feel the same way. This isn't about getting to experience something first, this is about losing something you probably invested a lot of time or other resources into that is currently a crazy limited resource in itself.

At no point have I disregarded the victims of this war, or any other war, but to constantly adjust game design choices around such events is an simply impossible task, especially when it’s an event that could easily run on for years. Even if you want to call it selfish, there’s all nothing wrong with those of us unaffected enjoying entertainment products to their fullest like nothing happened.

They seem to be implementing it fine. The only pushback is people such as yourself who are unaffected and as such feel you shouldn't be affected in any way. Not to mention that as we speak most servers still have personal housing up for grabs and likely will have a bunch of smalls swapped over to "private" available once the FC housing has settled, just like they said they would.

Go ahead and continue to enjoy your products like nothing happened. The rest of the world is going to happen though and maybe you can consider this an affect on you. Personally I'm not super jazzed about a bunch of ingredients for food I like to make (IRL) going up in price or lacking in supply... but I will accept that as an affect and continue on with the rest of my life without demanding I be unaffected since I have no direct stake.

Reworking housing is another discussion entirely and even if they did that, the entire system should still be functioning fully until we reach said future reworked housing system.

It's working fully right now. The pause and resumption of the demolition system is part of it working. It used to NOT even be a thing.. so it changed and they've shown again and again that they will pause it for widespread effects of world happenings.

[Batbrat]

If it's not over then the timer should stay on.

Don't know if you know this, but wars tend to take several years. It's extremely rare that they're just a few months. People who thought this would be over in weeks clearly were not well educated on the history of wars.

So they have two choices right now.

1. Tell everyone that demolition will no longer be a thing and we don't have to be subbed to keep our houses forever
2. Turn it back on and whoever isnt subbed loses their house to someone who is subbed

I've said this before and I'll say it again although I'm aware that it's crass.
Whoever didnt make it out of there by now is never logging in again. It's a war. They're not coming back. Which is tragic and I'm sorry, I hate that all of this happened too. but we can't pause everything forever. and even if it ended today, those people would still be gone. Do you understand? I'm sorry that they've passed, but plenty of xiv players have passed and their houses eventually were demo'd. We didnt pause the demo on any of their houses for all eternity. This is only fair. It needs to be turned back on.