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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brygd View Post
    For every lottery entry, SE has another data point that their current housing supply is inadequate.
    I don't think that can be emphasized enough. It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive. They wouldn't know how many players actually wanted housing. But they have real data points now.

    If people don't use the lottery system, they can just assume the problem is fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    I don't think that can be emphasized enough. It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive. They wouldn't know how many players actually wanted housing. But they have real data points now.

    If people don't use the lottery system, they can just assume the problem is fixed.
    While I kind of agree with both of you, I am also of the mind that this is gil I can be using for other things and don't need locked away for a a few days. But I think I'll leave it up to how the plots look in these next few cycles. Appreciate y'all comments and feedback, gives me a lot to think about.

    I think it's a really unfortunate mix right now of continued unhappiness, and this switch to lottery making it very apparent to everyone else how hard it was, and is to get housing.

    Here's to hoping luck comes to those of us who have been missed by it so far though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    It is one thing for players to complain about aspects of the game, but generally speaking, people only report the negative and rarely the positive.
    Would you want to admit to winning a plot in this current environment? I sure wouldn't.
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    houseing lotto

    don't care to much about the new system i got my houses before this bad system went into effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmaeran View Post
    Would you want to admit to winning a plot in this current environment? I sure wouldn't.
    To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.
    the personal literally above you did exactly that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I loved how people like yourself confused the re-claiming process for demolished plot with claiming process for fresh plot release.
    TDLR, they are not same thing.
    In each major plot release in the past, as long as one is not dumb enough to go for so called the dream plot, they can claim a small plot if they put a tiny effort by set alarm clock
    No one ask you or think keep clicking a placard, jeeze.
    How odd. I distinctly remember people using relocation to troll people during a time when lots of plots were available. You know what, I might've been thinking of when they turned auto-demo back on, and ~45 days afterwards all those plots became available again. That would explain it, because I remember people raging about how they had been clicking, when literally the same groups of people's houses would show up there and reset the timer.
    So, chalk it up to a minor memory lapse! Either way, MAIN POINT still stands that a lot of homeowners are dicks.


    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    the personal literally above you did exactly that.
    Oh lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    To be fair, a lot of homeowners in this game have 0 self awareness and will actually enter a conversation where people are ranting and upset just to be like "I don't care about this new system because I won back when it was easy" or spend all day dancing in front of their placard while losers come to collect their Gil. I think most people know that they can be banned for saying mean things to each other up front, but the housing system gives them a kind of outlet to be dicks so they just use it. Even before this system, you'd get a new ward opening and people would relocate a dozen times just to screw with other players. A lot of people in this game literally just get a home so they can lord it over people who were unlucky. I've been sort of observing the housing community for a while and some of the stuff I've seen makes other more toxic game communities look like a kindergarten park. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone jumped into a room full of sad/bitter people just to say "Well I won today, haha!" and leave.
    I loved how people like yourself confused the re-claiming process for demolished plot with claiming process for fresh plot release.
    TDLR, they are not same thing.
    In each major plot release in the past, as long as one is not dumb enough to go for so called the dream plot, they can claim a small plot if they put a tiny effort by set alarm clock
    No one ask you or think keep clicking a placard, jeeze.
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    In my humble opinion, I feel the lottery system is far better than the previous system.

    What SE should do in my opnion are 2 things:
    • Reduce the FC wards
    • Reenable auto-demonlish. I am myself from Ukraine but I live in the comfort of Belgium now and I feel the decision to suspend auto-demolition for the following reason: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...8b104d6a595126 was not a correct one. It was a nice gesture. A war in my home country should not have being the reason for this decision.

    Edit: I heard the main issue for adding more wards is the server capacity, if 1 person is in a ward, the whole ward is loaded onto the server. So maybe a 3rd thing SE could do, buy more servers? I think we shouldn't be cry babies in the first place and try too be reasonable. SE already did a massive server upgrade with EW. I feel they deserve some breathing and let them analyse future data too see if housing servers could eventually be upgraded? I am little bit tired of seeing soo much crying on this forum
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    Last edited by Lexi_Krallphekter; 06-14-2022 at 07:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi_Krallphekter View Post
    A war in my home country should not have being the reason for this decision
    It wasn't. A few people have jumped to that conclusion, but there were and are other world events too.
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