What's even the point of doing savage?

[GaspardSavoureuxx]

We had that before and nobody was interested in it

I understand though. It seems that some people on the game are very sensitive.

The game is not enough strict to "endgame" content. You can go on P1S and make your group wipe over and over again because you're supposed to do 7-8k damage and you just did 2k. (even if you're not suppose to know the damage of people...)
So you've seen enrage multiple times and people on the group wipe because of your lack of interest in your rotation. (i'm not talking about you it's an example).

To make savage interesting, make the boss dummy mandatory before doing the boss in question. If you can't beat the dummy of P1S, you can't access the raid.

PF would be so much better if this was apply in game...

And that could make endgame better cause i could go on PF and do blind savage with a group with people who can push their button properly.

I've seen endsinger enrage 14x times in PF with the best run at 15% health remaining...

[Absurdity]

I understand though. It seems that some people on the game are very sensitive.

The game is not enough strict to "endgame" content. You can go on P1S and make your group wipe over and over again because you're supposed to do 7-8k damage and you just did 2k. (even if you're not suppose to know the damage of people...)
So you seen enrage multiple times and people on the group wipe because of your lack of interest in your rotation. (i'm not talking about you it's an example).

To make savage interesting, make the boss dummy mandatory before doing the boss in question. If you can't beat the dummy of P1S, you can't access the raid.

PF would be so much better if this was apply in game...

And that could make endgame better cause i could go on PF and do blind savage with a group with people who can push their button properly.

That's unfortunately the problem with having no gradual increase in difficulty. People do the MSQ which has 0 challenge, do some max level dungeons which also have 0 challenge and then jump into savage where they run into the brick wall that is the 90° jump in difficulty, because nothing they did before prepared them for it.

But there's an easy fix for it, just leave. If you notice that your party's DPS in PF is so bad that you have no hope of beating enrage, or that they show no signs of learning the fight, just leave and try again with a different one. You're usually not in party finder to make friends, you're there to progress the content.

[GaspardSavoureuxx]

That's unfortunately the problem with having no gradual increase in difficulty. People do the MSQ which has 0 challenge, do some max level dungeons which also have 0 challenge and then jump into savage where they run into the brick wall that is the 90° increase in difficulty, because nothing they did before prepared them for it.

But there's an easy fix for it, just leave. If you notice that your party's DPS in PF is so bad that you have no hope of beating enrage, or that they show no signs of learning the fight, just leave and try again with a different one. You're usually not in party finder to make friends, you're there to progress the content.

Yep, i tried, but trust me, finding blind group for P1S is impossible to find. All the one i've seen is "training" with people who can't push their buttons, or "already finished" weekly reclear. So if i was not able to find a fix roster, i would have been doomed...

[Absurdity]

Yep, i tried, but trust me, finding blind group for P1S is impossible to find. All the one i've seen is "training" with people who can't push their buttons, or "already finished" weekly reclear. So if i was not able to find a fix roster, i would have been doomed...

The unfortunate side effect of trying to pug savage this late into the raid tier, the later you start the worse your experience will be because most of the good players are already done with it.

Considering what kind of the game FF14 is, I would say that overall goal of the game is progression of the story (though obviously for different people it might vary). To me savage is just a way to spend time with friends, with some additional bonuses alongside (i.e. gear or even some additional lore behind it).

You did say it yourself but if people only played the game to progress the story then XIV would probably not exist anymore.

[Halivel]

The unfortunate side effect of trying to pug savage this late into the raid tier, the later you start the worse your experience will be because most of the good players are already done with it.


You did say it yourself but if people only played the game to progress the story then XIV would probably not exist anymore.

Depends slightly on the Data Center. I started this tier very late into the cycle, but my experience is not always, but generally is positive on Elemental. When I was on Chaos, this late into the cycle it was a bit of a pain, yep.

It... would probably, but certainly wouldn't have been as big as it is now.