Frustrating relative lack of LGBT NPCs in this game

[BaconBits]

We did it y'all, 1000 posts. I am so proud to be a part of this community.

This post is on page 71 now lmao. Over 30 pages worth of comments deleted since then.

[Vryn]

I'm a Transgender Girl myself and identify with LGB+ (not just T) and I can agree with this post!

There are very good LGBT couples in this game (though they make it very natural and don't really flat out yell it) don't get me wrong.

But I agree with this because though I know how many LGBT characters there are, it does feel like very little, and then some people don't quite catch that they're LGBT! A good part of this can be because they're also not key to the story or any major side stories, which can be a bit of a letdown for us LGBT+ folk.

I also won't spoil it, but I think there is an LGBT character blooming from the most recent patch *eyes*

That's because it's a 13+ video game geared towards children, and it would be incredibly inappropriate for a video game to expose children to such things. You may find it appropriate. Still, the majority of the world and parents don't. It's also not a corporation's place to expose children to such things either that is the parent's duty and they do it in their own time. Just because you may have a different ideological leaning than the majority of parents does not mean you get to co-opt for that duty to fit your worldview.

If people who live unorthodox lifestyles were less zealous in their attempts to be accepted by the majority, the majority might be more accepting in time of us rather than becoming sick of seeing and hearing us. they might take the issues more seriously if they didn't hear about them every two seconds.

[Ativan]

That's because it's a 13+ video game geared towards children, and it would be incredibly inappropriate for a video game to expose children to such things. You may find it appropriate. Still, the majority of the world and parents don't. It's also not a corporation's place to expose children to such things either that is the parent's duty and they do it in their own time. Just because you may have a different ideological leaning than the majority of parents does not mean you get to co-opt for that duty to fit your worldview.

If people who live unorthodox lifestyles were less zealous in their attempts to be accepted by the majority, the majority might be more accepting in time of us rather than becoming sick of seeing and hearing us. they might take the issues more seriously if they didn't hear about them every two seconds.

Excuse me, LGBTQIA+ identities are not inherently sexual.

[Silvarer]

That's because it's a 13+ video game geared towards children, and it would be incredibly inappropriate for a video game to expose children to such things. You may find it appropriate. Still, the majority of the world and parents don't. It's also not a corporation's place to expose children to such things either that is the parent's duty and they do it in their own time. Just because you may have a different ideological leaning than the majority of parents does not mean you get to co-opt for that duty to fit your worldview.

If people who live unorthodox lifestyles were less zealous in their attempts to be accepted by the majority, the majority might be more accepting in time of us rather than becoming sick of seeing and hearing us. they might take the issues more seriously if they didn't hear about them every two seconds.

So having LGBT characters is somehow worse to expose to children than the multiple mentions of rape, prostitution, torture, and death that can be found throughout the game? Your “But the children!” argument makes no sense.

[forsakee]

Why did you guys necro a post from 2 years ago?

[Vryn]

So having LGBT characters is somehow worse to expose to children than the multiple mentions of rape, prostitution, torture, and death that can be found throughout the game? Your "But the children!" argument makes no sense.

To you, it doesn't make sense, the game is a 13+. It will have children playing it, and yes, it is worse in many cultures. The children's argument makes complete sense parents don't want corporations to introduce their children to these subjects. It's not complicated. The Flordia senate in the US is going through legislation to deal with Disney on that exact matter, and Disney has torture, rape and death in it, and it's marketed towards children. The middle east, Africa, South America, and the far east also have stricter policies toward sexuality than those other topics.

Does that make it morally right? It doesn't matter. That's the way people react to it. Some cultures in Asia won't even allow you to hold hands or kiss in public. Your standards are not the standard of the majority of people who are deeply religious.

[Silvarer]

To you, it doesn't make sense, the game is a 13+. It will have children playing it, and yes, it is worse in many cultures. The children's argument makes complete sense parents don't want corporations to introduce their children to these subjects. It's not complicated. The Flordia senate in the US is going through legislation to deal with Disney on that exact matter, and Disney has torture, rape and death in it, and it's marketed towards children. The middle east, Africa, South America, and the far east also have stricter policies toward sexuality than those other topics.

Does that make it morally right? It doesn't matter. That's the way people react to it. Some cultures in Asia won't even allow you to hold hands or kiss in public. Your standards are not the standard of the majority of people who are deeply religious.

Just because the majority of people react to something in one way doesn't mean it should never be put out there for fear of offending them. Plenty of people find these other subjects offensive and yet games have no problem incorporating them all the time. Saying that parents don't want children exposed to one thing but it's perfectly fine if they're exposed to these others just because for some reason they're not as "bad" is not a good argument.

[Vryn]

Just because the majority of people react to something in one way doesn't mean it should never be put out there for fear of offending them. Plenty of people find these other subjects offensive and yet games have no problem incorporating them all the time. Saying that parents don't want children exposed to one thing but it's perfectly fine if they're exposed to these others just because for some reason they're not as "bad" is not a good argument.

It does if you want to sell a product in those regions. You are coming at this from a principle standpoint and the majority of the world doesn't care about your principles and doesn't run their life based on them. They run them on theirs amd only theirs. If you have a problem with parents showing them these other things take it up with the parents and good luck doing so but it doesn't change anything because they will just tell you to go away and then play CoD or watch the game of thrones or play WAP next to their 5 yr old in the car.

[LianaThorne]

To you, it doesn't make sense, the game is a 13+. It will have children playing it, and yes, it is worse in many cultures. The children's argument makes complete sense parents don't want corporations to introduce their children to these subjects. It's not complicated. The Flordia senate in the US is going through legislation to deal with Disney on that exact matter, and Disney has torture, rape and death in it, and it's marketed towards children. The middle east, Africa, South America, and the far east also have stricter policies toward sexuality than those other topics.

Does that make it morally right? It doesn't matter. That's the way people react to it. Some cultures in Asia won't even allow you to hold hands or kiss in public. Your standards are not the standard of the majority of people who are deeply religious.

I love it when one person speaks for an entire group of people.

For real though, bit of a head scratcher to be fine with kids being exposed to violence (especially in a time when mass shootings and race based attacks are on the rise) but not topics regarding self-identity so they can accept and understand everyone for who they are. Definitely going to side eye a bit.

[Vryn]

I love it when one person speaks for an entire group of people.

For real though, bit of a head scratcher to be fine with kids being exposed to violence (especially in a time when mass shootings and race based attacks are on the rise) but not topics regarding self-identity so they can accept and understand everyone for who they are. Definitely going to side eye a bit.

I didn't say I say I was speaking for everyone. This issue is about parents having the ability to teach their children about these subjects in their way. That could be along ethnic/cultural/religious lines without having external cooperation instigating that conversation before they feel that their children are ready for it, which is many parents are very aggressive to these issues because many parents still think that it's a parent's duty to parent rather than outsource their responsibilities to a third party.

I grew up learning about my history before learning about gender identity. That had a lot of murder, rape, and pillaging in it, especially considering the history of my country and family considering how my clan was known as mercenaries founded by a Hungarian warlord in the 13th century and descended from Vikings and geals who killed or assimilated every native tribe in the country until the Romans. I also was taught in the theological background, and yes, I was taught about exodus by the age of 6, which was the enslavement of the Jews, as well as mass genocide by god on the descendants of Cain, as well as David who went onto to become the king of Isreal. Did your school not teach religion?

You must have had a very sheltered life, but I grew up in a highly sectarian part of Scotland where clashes between Catholics and protestants happened every time there was a football match, and people died. People around my neighbourhood were stabbed and dying of heroin. Children by the age of 4 swore.

The world is not America.