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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Im sorry to dissapoint but he was straight. At some point he stated that he sired Children. Not quite possible with two males.
    And I have two sons in their mid-to-late twenties. So?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    And I have two sons in their mid-to-late twenties. So?
    "Sired" usually implies the "Act" of "Making" them. Two Men cannot "create" Children of their own. Just choosing my words carefully here to not get a ban or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    "Sired" usually implies the "Act" of "Making" them. Two Men cannot "create" Children of their own. Just choosing my words carefully here to not get a ban or anything.
    Just because someone is a gay man, doesn't mean they can't have sex with a woman for the purpose of making kids. I'm a transgender female, only attracted to men, in the 90's I was married to a woman, and we did things married couples do. The fathering of children is not the sole determination of heterosexual cisgender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    "Sired" usually implies the "Act" of "Making" them. Two Men cannot "create" Children of their own. Just choosing my words carefully here to not get a ban or anything.
    What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

    Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

    Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.
    One could take this to mean gay males see females as nothing but breeding stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
    One could take this to mean gay males see females as nothing but breeding stock.
    How do people do this? Seriously equating a Gay man making a child with a woman, and going to "Sees them as Breeding stock."

    I'm only attracted to men, I'm a Transgender Female, but when I was pretending to be male back in the 90s, I was married to a woman. We did married couples things. I still love her, even though I couldn't give her the love she deserved. Gay men can and often do have women they love, and might even have skinship with. This does not mean they think of them as a womb only. Also on this note, back in the wayback machine, when being Gay was illegal in most of the USA ie 2003 (Lawrence v. Texas). Gay men and lesbian women would often marry and have kids to hide that they were gay. Tons of famous actors fell into this category, where they married for a press release, and had kids to prove they were straight.

    Now straight men, on the other hand especially in very religious circles, and in very religious nations do often think of women as a womb to bare Boy children. But this is not a discussion of the danger of conservative monotheism and the danger it holds to western civilization.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    How do people do this? Seriously equating a Gay man making a child with a woman, and going to "Sees them as Breeding stock."

    I'm only attracted to men, I'm a Transgender Female, but when I was pretending to be male back in the 90s, I was married to a woman. We did married couples things. I still love her, even though I couldn't give her the love she deserved. Gay men can and often do have women they love, and might even have skinship with. This does not mean they think of them as a womb only. Also on this note, back in the wayback machine, when being Gay was illegal in most of the USA ie 2003 (Lawrence v. Texas). Gay men and lesbian women would often marry and have kids to hide that they were gay. Tons of famous actors fell into this category, where they married for a press release, and had kids to prove they were straight.

    Now straight men, on the other hand especially in very religious circles, and in very religious nations do often think of women as a womb to bare Boy children. But this is not a discussion of the danger of conservative monotheism and the danger it holds to western civilization.
    If you go back, you'll realize I was responding to the "carefully chosen words" bit, sarcastically demonstrating further how no matter what you say, it can easily be misconstrued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    What ever gave you the idea that gay males never have female partners? Or that a gay man cannot be married to a woman and have children?

    Your carefully chosen words were not in your earlier post.
    If you're gay and having children with a woman that's called being bi.

    Its also cool and also totally fine to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    If you're gay and having children with a woman that's called being bi.

    Its also cool and also totally fine to be.
    Yes and no, Bi & Pan sexualities mean you are sexually attracted to more than one gender/sex. Gay like Heterosexuality, is only attracted sexually to one thing. Now the thing is, people can have sex with people they are not attracted sexually to, in fact, this happens all the time. I can think of a hundred real-world examples of this. Also you don't even need sex to make children in a technological civilization. And since this whole tangent revolves around someone from a technological civilization that has mecha, and cloning. One can not assume that the person in question ever had a sexual relationship.
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