Why do casuals act as if it's the end of the world when suggesting?

[Caitlyn]

The only reason it take a while is because too much people are lazy and not doing their parts in damaging the boss, not a raid design problems...

I totally agree with you. But since the playerbase wont change to the better, the dungeons must change. Laziness shouldnt be awarded in my opinion. Not in a team-based game.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

I totally agree with you. But since the playerbase wont change to the better, the dungeons must change. Laziness shouldnt be awarded in my opinion. Not in a team-based game.

Funny thing is, I know Yoshi P agrees with you too. He has gone on record stating that (paraphrasing) if he were designing a game for his personal tastes, it would be much, much harder. But he knows that isn't his audience.

[Caitlyn]

Funny thing is, I know Yoshi P agrees with you too. He has gone on record stating that (paraphrasing) if he were designing a game for his personal tastes, it would be much, much harder. But he knows that isn't his audience.

Well, it was designed for his personal taste back in Heavensward. It was much harder back then. Demon Wall in Amdapor Hard. Even some job quests.
But a small or niche audience doesnt create much money. So he sacrificed FFXIV's original status as a "hard but fair MMORPG" just to be more accessable for more players. The thing is, games can be hard AND accessable at the same time. But that would require alot of work.

I hate it. I hate to see how FFXIV become easier and boring. Just for the sake of generating a bigger playerbase.
Alot things improved over the years, I know that. But the only thing which gets worse every time is the playerbase as a result of making things easier and boring.

It says alot about the playerbase if people join a "Lion Phase practise group for E12S" and then wiping for 30 mins on the very first mechanics. Yes, that really happened. And it happened more than once.
And people are wondering why I beg the Devs to change their course. Make content more engaging and less a waste of time. Thats the only thing I want (that and some sin eater glamour in the shop xD).

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Well, it was designed for his personal taste back in Heavensward. It was much harder back then. Demon Wall in Amdapor Hard. Even some job quests.
But a small or niche audience doesnt create much money. So he sacrificed FFXIV's original status as a "hard but fair MMORPG" just to be more accessable for more players. The thing is, games can be hard AND accessable at the same time. But that would require alot of work.

I hate it. I hate to see how FFXIV become easier and boring. Just for the sake of generating a bigger playerbase.
Alot things improved over the years, I know that. But the only thing which gets worse every time is the playerbase as a result of making things easier and boring.

While you and I seem to want very different things from the game, I am actually truly sorry that you and those like you aren't having fun like I am, which is the most Ive ever had in a video game. and I do hope you find the fun again.

[Caitlyn]

While you and I seem to want very different things from the game, I am actually truly sorry that you and those like you aren't having fun like I am, which is the most Ive ever had in a video game. and I do hope you find the fun again.

I have fun. But I dare to run something with random people. Since Yoshi-P want to make the game more solo-friendly, I cant wait to go all content with NPCs only.
And on a side note, I ve been here since Beta of ARR. You dont know how FFXIV was in the good old days.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

I have fun. But I dare to run something with random people.

ahh okay and there is where the disconnect is. You probably actually dont wipe that often then, and I dont think either of our videos would be likely to change anyones mind about anything.

Since Yoshi-P want to make the game more solo-friendly, I cant wait to go all content with NPCs only.
And on a side note, I ve been here since Beta of ARR. You dont know how FFXIV was in the good old days.

You are right I dont, and I regret that very much. There were times in my life where I would have appreciated a more challenging hardcore MMO and indeed have from time to time. Now just isn't that time for me. But honestly though, if it was? This isn't the game I would be playing.

[Caitlyn]

ahh okay and there is where the disconnect is. You probably actually dont wipe that often then, and I dont think either of our videos would be likely to change anyones mind about anything.

You misunderstand me.

I ran all the leveling stuff with randoms. I did savage and ex with PF ppl. And i tried PvP with randoms obviously.
BUT: I keep all that content to the very minimun. I have no interest to run dungeons more than neccessary. I wont farm tomes or do PvP anymore. And no leveling, because everything is on max for months.

Since I want some glamour, I run Aglaia several times per week with 23 random ppl. And I experience only 1 wipe so far. I will make a video tonight.

[Ivtrix]

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While you and I seem to want very different things from the game, I am actually truly sorry that you and those like you aren't having fun like I am, which is the most Ive ever had in a video game. and I do hope you find the fun again.

bro you on the forums this is you right now

[Kazelus]

I totally agree with you. But since the playerbase wont change to the better, the dungeons must change. Laziness shouldnt be awarded in my opinion. Not in a team-based game.

That's what I'm saying since the start of the thread, we need the MSQ content to ask players to play not perfectly optimal but with a baseline of doing combo and using CD.

The best thing that could happens to the game would be locking the DF from new players if they don't do some learning before (Like an enhanced hall of the novice with dps check and heal check. And an overhealing check.) and just give them the duty support so they can play with AI if they don't want to learn. It should have different level of difficulty throught ARR and only block dungeon from a level you haven't done before on the "enhanced hall of the novice".