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  1. #41
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    You are already paying a sub to actually keep it (since you have to visit it once every month or so from getting it demolished), so it's kinda a chore already.
    Taxation would draw from the funds of your retainer you employ there until nothing is left, instead.
    The sub is for access to play the game, not to keep a house. If it was to keep a house, every player would have one.

    Quite honestly, it's a very foolish consumer that pays a subscription just to keep a house in a game they don't want to be playing. That money could be getting used elsewhere, such as a game that has housing but no demolition. If the only attraction to the player is housing, they're better off elsewhere.
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  2. #42
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The sub is for access to play the game, not to keep a house. If it was to keep a house, every player would have one.

    Quite honestly, it's a very foolish consumer that pays a subscription just to keep a house in a game they don't want to be playing. That money could be getting used elsewhere, such as a game that has housing but no demolition. If the only attraction to the player is housing, they're better off elsewhere.
    That's of course depends on the player - But nothing else is lost than your house if you fail to pay your subscription: You keep your gear and outfits, cash and tomes, even the stuff you keep on extra retainers remain there until you resub to regain access.

    So it really is a chore if don't feel for playing or got caught in a lull between patches yet you have to keep your sub running to visit your house in order to prevent it from getting demolished.
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  3. #43
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Instanced housing, please.

    *shot*
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  4. #44
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    Cin Aamon
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    No.

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  5. #45
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    The never ending battle of trying to hurt others to get a house. I'm sure the OP isn't poor but some have to struggle to get the gil to buy one and furnish one. SE needs to address the problem by adding enough housing for everyone. Instanced alongside wards is what would be optimal in my view.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-30-2022 at 12:14 AM.

  6. #46
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    The Op has clearly a very questionable mindsetting. In this game is like in RL you BUY and not rent a pice of land to put a house on it. When you buy a plot and a house it is your own property, why in the world you would pay addional rent for it? If you want house that bad maybe try another server.
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  7. #47
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    Kurotora Iga
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    How is it a punishmen to pay for maintaince of your property? Alot of games got that, especially if go oldschool.
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  8. #48
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    In this game is like in RL you BUY and not rent a pice of land to put a house on it. When you buy a plot and a house it is your own property, why in the world you would pay addional rent for it?
    The other day I was paying a property tax for my real life house (which has similar issue, because the tax is so low I keep the house around instead of selling it) so that's from where the idea comes from. Switching servers to get a house would not recommend unless the fc-fs returns. Lottery is too much of gamble in its current state to move servers.

    When the supply is so limited it makes sense to want a little bit of effort from players to show they aren't just wasting space. Like I said, I had many houses through the years, the amount of time my houses were unused when I was no longer playing, time when the demolition was stopped due to covid, earthquakes and stuff... it's bonkers. So much wasted time someone else could have used the space if only a tax kicked me out of the property sooner.
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    Last edited by Archaell; 05-29-2022 at 09:07 PM.
    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

  9. #49
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    How is it a punishmen to pay for maintaince of your property? Alot of games got that, especially if go oldschool.
    Just because something else did it doesn't make it a good idea. Seriously, this line of thinking is why there are still so many draconian laws in effect today. 'It was done like this back in the day so clearly it is the only way'. I just don't understand. Especially as another player has pointed out. There are people who are sitting on enough gil where this wouldn't bother them, yet depending on the server your average player probably only ever has 2-3 mil (and that is being generous) on them at any given time unless they specifically save up for things such as a house. Most PvErs don't have much in the way of gil, you'd be surprised how little gil some of the hardcore raiders themselves have. Especially with (again as someone else pointed out) how little crafting can make you these days vs the cost to get to that level. At least on Mateus making a reasonable level of gil requires heavily playing the market and researching market trends and costs. I can bet your average player probably isn't going to do that, hell most of my FC doesn't even do that. So while I could afford several houses and their upkeep, many of my fellow FC members would likely not even afford to maintain a single one with a taxation system because you just don't earn enough gil through basic play.
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  10. #50
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    Greyhawk's Avatar
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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    The only game I know of that implemented housing taxes in recent years is new world, and I'm pretty sure it was very much disliked than a lot of bad things in that game.
    Even Dark Age of Camelot has you pay a tax on a weekly or monthly basis to keep your house from disappearing. Players still hated it, and still do, and the housing system already holds an account hostage by staying subbed to it.

    It wasn't 'terrible' because it was affordable, but there are so many money sinks in FFXIV, it would become questionable to have taxes on housing here.


    I have a beetter idea for you OP: Instead of making the current system worse, let's make it better and have instanced housing, like so many have been asking for since it started.
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