Do NOT bring Kaiten back

[xAFROx]

Third Eye isn't bloat. It's an oGCD mitigation that gives an extra bit of gauge. It used to also grant a counter that was cheaper and on par with Shinten, as far as Kenki is concerned.

Kaiten was something that allowed for actual gauge management on a kit that hardly needs to do any sort of gauge managing at all. Without it, there's nothing to pool and nothing to think about. The job is more brainless than it used to be and the reward for doing our combos and building up Sen is barely a reward anymore as those same combos do the exact same damage as the iaijutsu.

There's a lot wrong with the design as far as class fantasy goes. No one has argued that it doesn't do well. The problem is the feeling. Like... like if you were to get a cheeseburger that naturally comes with all the usual condiments... but those condiments are just not there anymore.

You still have a cheeseburger, but its less than it should be. You can still eat it, and you can still enjoy the taste. But you know it's not what it was or should be.

Your strict adherence to the idea that the devs taking things away from us is good isn't bad. It's just different. But you telling us we're whining, or that we should get over it, or that we should just accept what we don't want, while also advocating for more removal is setting a lot of people off.

The way something is phrased matters, so if you're really genuine about expressing these differing opinions, maybe do so without coming across as antagonistic or condescending.

You'll get less pushback from folks that way.

Also keep in mind folks have grown frustrated over the extended silence from the devs. That's another reason why most of us are taking such comments with a lot of resistance.

[cjbeagle]

Third Eye isn't bloat. It's an oGCD mitigation that gives an extra bit of gauge.

The important thing about Third Eye isn't actually what it does though - it's what you have to do to optimize it, which is pay attention to all unavoidable AOE, which is normally something that only healers need to be mindful of.

The reward is important in terms of incentive, but its real value is the impact on gameplay by enticing you to pay attention to an entire additional facet of the encounter.