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  1. #41
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    He's not really wrong. You can think he's wrong but it doesn't make you right
    Others in this thread have stated multiple valid reason for why it's a bad idea.
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    Make it against the rules to ask for DPS numbers or discriminate based on them, ban people who do, boom problem solved.
    If that request is made in discord, how can that rule be enforced. It cant be as theres no proof. All it does is create more grief, and more work for the staff who have god knows enough to deal with as it is.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    An officially supported damage meter should be added, there is no good argument against this. All they need to do is allow people to simply set their damage to private if they can't handle potential criticism or just don't want to mess with it. Same way they did with the adventure plates.

    They could even implement the feature with "private" as the default setting.

    The information is already flowing that's how the current plug-ins work. All SE would need to do is add an in-game GUI that allows you to access it.

    Being able to break down your damage and stats in a meaningful way is basically standard for most games like this, and it's insane that a game as big as XIV just ignores it. There are people I know who I keep trying to get into this game, but they won't because it is missing so many basic features like this.

    Virtually nobody would quit because a damage meter was added (as much as they scream on twitter to the contrary, they won't). But more people would be interested in the game if it was updated this way. It's a net positive.

    Edit: Since these forum uses an obscenely moronic design of locking you to 20 posts a day, I will stick to editing the OP.

    I'll be excited to see what non-grey parsers think about this
    You can already make yourself private with ACT so they wont have logs online, I am fine with how it is currently as it works well with xivanalysis as well to help you further improve.
    I think a personal DPS meter would be fine but I can agree with Yoshi P, if you show everyone's DPS is will cause nothing but problems.
    Allowing players to not be parsed wouldn't help out to ensure you are meeting DPS checks anyways as you need the total DPS to know if you are going to meet it or not.
    At minimal I think our stats should show us the weight they have towards increased dmg, crit chance dh chance ect.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Actually, yeah that would be a good idea. Too many people abuse it and put requirements that are way higher than they need to be. You don't need 590+ ilvl to farm Zodiark EX, people were farming it comfortably before that level of gear was even out.
    Disagree, unless they change savage to have an Ilvl requirement to enter this needs to stay as I am pretty sure savage does not have an ilvl requirement to enter. I may be wrong though it's been a minute since I even looked to see if there is one.
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    Last edited by IdowhatIwant; 05-16-2022 at 12:27 PM.

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    If it's only personal, and then on top only active in Savage/Ultimate and at training dummies, fine.

    But for the sake of baby kittens, it must not be available in anything EX and lower. I've lost count of the times that people are calling others out in a normal mode dungeon. Seriously. It really doesn't matter if the Ninja is doing less than the WHM in Aurum Vale.
    Shibi, a few days ago a friend of mine told me of a guy spamming dps numbers and hurling abuse.

    IN SASTASHA.
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  5. #45
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    I'll be excited to see what non-grey parsers think about this
    ..this comment really doesnt help your case.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ..this comment really doesnt help your case.
    He just proved, again, that what I said is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Disagree, unless they change savage to have an Ilvl requirement to enter this needs to stay as I am pretty sure savage does not have an ilvl requirement to enter. I may be wrong though it's been a minute since I even looked to see if there is one.
    Savage has an ilvl requirement. You need 570-575-580-580 respectively to enter Asphodelos Savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    If it's only personal, and then on top only active in Savage/Ultimate and at training dummies, fine.

    But for the sake of baby kittens, it must not be available in anything EX and lower. I've lost count of the times that people are calling others out in a normal mode dungeon. Seriously. It really doesn't matter if the Ninja is doing less than the WHM in Aurum Vale.
    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Shibi, a few days ago a friend of mine told me of a guy spamming dps numbers and hurling abuse.

    IN SASTASHA.
    I don't believe either of these, and want SS as proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Savage has an ilvl requirement. You need 570-575-580-580 respectively to enter Asphodelos Savage.
    Okay, I believe you then I honestly have not even looked at the savage ilvl requirement since ARR coil, which didn't even have savage. I've always been savage ready when it comes out.

    Edit: Comfirmed you are actually incorrect about savage ilvl requirement. Cause I didn't really believe you...
    Item level restrictions do not apply when registering as a full party.

    The Ilvl requirement you listed, is to join through the duty finder, which no one in NA uses.
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    Last edited by IdowhatIwant; 05-16-2022 at 12:36 PM.

  9. #49
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    I don't believe either of these, and want SS as proof.
    Sorry, but no screenshots were taken as no one told me I would need them to prove my case to someone I dont know, in a thread that didnt exist at the time. The matter was reported.
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  10. #50
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    Well, no matter if DPS metter is private or not, it will cause toxicity.

    Also i'm pretty sure many of casual players will stop playing FFXIV if DPS metter gets officially added to the game, when it would be used to discriminate casual players.
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