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    The devs really should do something about animation lock in client and give the tools there no excuse for legit existance, nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johners View Post
    The same mechanism that allows XIVAlex or NoClippy to work can also be used to just outright cheat. You'd ultimately have to ban both if you were being fair.
    I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok
    It isn't about changing the GCD, it's about allowing OGCD actions to be completed in the GCD period without clipping it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    So are they banning people from using vpn's now too?
    I really wish they would, imagine people having to play on a DC that's close to them, instead of using a VPN that's outside their area? I bet they'de experience less server issues, and lower ping too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    It isn't about changing the GCD, it's about allowing OGCD actions to be completed in the GCD period without clipping it.
    oh, I know, But I think that's the direction they're heading in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I vpn is a pipe. It doesn't actually modify network traffic or game data.


    Stop reaching
    I am not reaching I just don't want to get banned for something monumentally stupid. It is a program allowing to be seen as connecting to the servers from a different country. It minimizes your ping and could be considered third party. I am not saying these things to be sarcastic. I legitimately want to know. Some games do not take lightly to vpn's because you can hide your ip and your connection is taking different routes.

    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    I really wish they would, imagine people having to play on a DC that's close to them, instead of using a VPN that's outside their area? I bet they'de experience less server issues, and lower ping too.
    I live in the US my ping is 256 without a vpn because they could not be bothered to put servers anywhere other than California. I might get a better connection around 200 ping to germany maybe but it is still far. I am on the east coast. I literally can't be closer to any server.
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    Last edited by Faafetai; 05-12-2022 at 06:13 AM.

  7. 05-12-2022 06:12 AM
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    just added it above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Litterally altering the ping on server to eg. negative ping affecs the GCD hence you would exploit the heck out of the game with quicker cooldowns than anyone else.
    It does not alter your cooldown. While you could theoretically alter the program to give you negative ping and removing the oGCD animation lock entirely, probably allowing you to tripple or even quadrupple weave, but that's a surefire way to get banned because their logs would show you do something that is impossible to do legitimately.


    The main issue is that these tools need to exist in the first place because SE can't be bothered to fix their netcode. The animation lock it imposes on your oGCDs gets longer the higher your ping is, making it impossible to play a lot of jobs properly unless your ping 50ms or less.
    What the tools are designed for is essentially only to give you the same gameplay experience as JP players connecting to the JP servers.


    I've heard that the devs have previously said that XIV plays fine at 200ms ping, that is a bold-faced lie.
    Try doing a proper rotation on jobs like GnB, DrK, Ast, Mch, or really any job that requires you to double weave without clipping your GCD at 200ms ping and tell me how "fine" that goes.


    Quote Originally Posted by HolyReign View Post
    I really wish they would, imagine people having to play on a DC that's close to them, instead of using a VPN that's outside their area? I bet they'de experience less server issues, and lower ping too.
    Ah yes

    "Please make the gameplay experience for anyone not living close to the datacenter's location worse because I have literally no idea what I'm talking about"
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 05-12-2022 at 06:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faafetai View Post
    I am not reaching I just don't want to get banned for something monumentally stupid. It is a program allowing to be seen as connecting to the servers from a different country. It minimizes your ping and could be considered third party. I am not saying these things to be sarcastic. I legitimately want to know. Some games do not take lightly to vpn's because you can hide your ip and your connection is taking different routes.
    A VPN is a network application that pipes traffic from an entry point to an exit point. It does not modify the data it contains.


    You will not get banned for using a VPN, you are not circumventing region locks.

    People are freaking out over everything because some streamers got caught being dumb. Most of this panic is fabricated by trolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    I don't get how changing the animation lock could be used to change the GCD or cooldowns, but ok
    It's because of the mechanism by which it deals with the animation lock. There was an incident where incorrect opcodes were circulating for XivAlexander, which when used lead to the inadvertent removal of the caster tax entirely. That does ultimately impact the GCD.
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    I live in Maine.

    I have around 114ish ping, no VPN or PING reducing helpers, so I don't see how yours would be that much worse than mine. Unless your part of the US, has horrid internet and other things causing interference.
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