Is Pyromancer getting a perm ban for having Dalamud?

[hagare]

would mass reporting someone still be acceptable if they were nicer?

irrelevant.
The report still needs to be investigated.
Mass reporting only brings it to attention faster.
It doesn't decide guilt or innocence.

[LeonKeyh]

irrelevant.
The report still needs to be investigated.
Mass reporting only brings it to attention faster.
It doesn't decide guilt or innocence.

What you're saying absolutely SHOULD be the case, but it's unlikely that the number of reports has no affect on the decision and/or punishment.

If 1 person sends a report for something questionable, then you can largely ignore it and just have 1 angry person either way. If 100 people send a report on something questionable then if you ignore it you have 100 angry people. If you deal with it, you have 1 angry person.

You can't ignore something that hundreds of people report like you can 1-2 people.

[KyraAu]

What you're saying absolutely SHOULD be the case, but it's unlikely that the number of reports has no affect on the decision and/or punishment.

If 1 person sends a report for something questionable, then you can largely ignore it and just have 1 angry person either way. If 100 people send a report on something questionable then if you ignore it you have 100 angry people. If you deal with it, you have 1 angry person.

You can't ignore something that hundreds of people report like you can 1-2 people.

You talking about how individual reports can be discarded and you the higher it goes the more you have to do something works from an individual person level

That's how you as a person would handle it, from your perspective

that is not how CS systems handle reports lol. A single report can get you banned. The primary way people get actioned in FF14 is by 1 person reporting another and a GM clarifying with person 1 and then taking action if the circumstances justify it. The time scale is what matters more when you're talking about impacts from the number of reports. The more the faster. Not the more the more reasonable.

I actually do think that Pyro has advertised addons before, I am like 95% sure I've heard him do it on Stream

He did this yesterday even



Just to add though, he right now as I'm typing removed all his plugins and is playing the game vanilla from now on, per what he just said.

[IdowhatIwant]

You talking about how individual reports can be discarded and you the higher it goes the more you have to do something works from an individual person level

That's how you as a person would handle it, from your perspective

that is not how CS systems handle reports lol. A single report can get you banned. The primary way people get actioned in FF14 is by 1 person reporting another and a GM clarifying with person 1 and then taking action if the circumstances justify it. The time scale is what matters more when you're talking about impacts from the number of reports. The more the faster. Not the more the more reasonable.





He did this yesterday even



Just to add though, he right now as I'm typing removed all his plugins and is playing the game vanilla from now on, per what he just said.

Uh oh Pyro, they coming for you next.

[KyraAu]

Uh oh Pyro, they coming for you next.

Idk, anyone who was actually upset at him over addons should literally have wanted this as their best case outcome, he stopped using addons so idk what else anyone could want

wanting him banned is wanting to be in charge of the process. SE is, and they didn't. So they should move on about that.


Streamers have a unique position here in the ability to showcase the benefits of addons to people who would otherwise not install them to find those benefits, that should really be most of the issue people have. Him actively removing them and stating he's doing so as to respect the ToS and situation around all of this, is setting the example of what is wanted ultimately so. Idk this should be good enough.

[aveyond-dreams]

Just to add though, he right now as I'm typing removed all his plugins and is playing the game vanilla from now on, per what he just said.

Good for him, hopefully he can have a more positive experience moving forward and can take the time to get the help he needs. I don't like seeing stories end in Scottzone-style fiascos.

[Y2K21]

Good for him, hopefully he can have a more positive experience moving forward and can take the time to get the help he needs. I don't like seeing stories end in Scottzone-style fiascos.

Well, if true -- Pyro doxxed himself when he made a DMCA claim to one of the videos. So there is also that.