What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[CrownySuccubus]

Is there a reason to question my words? It genuinely does not enter my mind as a motivation when playing a game, the idea of bragging about it.

Again, if you say so.

Frankly, there is zero reason for you feel a personal stake in declaring that this very general issue does not apply to you. It's like if someone in a room full of strangers said, "Most human beings are selfish" and you decided to stand up and declare "Well I'm not!" to people who have never met you before. Either way, it's neither something anyone can verify, nor is it relevant to the general point.

and yes, I did find the approach SHB was taking to have the MC's mortal enemies come to some manner of understanding with them, and the hint at a deeper and shared background both for them and the main character, to be strong draws. The ancient culture is the most intriguing one they've explored to date. Overall, it was a fresh approach. One which I believe EW lit up in flames in its desperation to justify the status quo of the setting (sundering), in spite of employing narrative devices which could have allowed you to see how things would've gone if resolved better. So yes, I am bitterly disappointed in it, and I agree with you that in this case the ideal would be for the writers to learn from it... to the extent that they acknowledge it's an issue. But it has little to do with the desire to brag.

Again, if not then good for you -- but even if this were the case, this is not something most people would even admit to themselves. But the fact remains that, in general, people like feeling that the things they invest their time in have meaning and makes them special for understanding, completing, mastering, or investing time in it. Even if they never brag outwardly to another person, it still gives them that warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

If you claim that this does not apply to you, or doesn't apply you specifically for this game, then great.

[Lauront]

Again, if you say so.

Frankly, there is zero reason for you feel a personal stake in declaring that this very general issue does not apply to you. It's like if someone in a room full of strangers said, "Most human beings are selfish" and you decided to stand up and declare "Well I'm not!" to people who have never met you before. Either way, it's neither something anyone can verify, nor is it relevant to the general point.



Again, if not then good for you -- but even if this were the case, this is not something most people would even admit to themselves. But the fact remains that, in general, people like feeling that the things they invest their time in have meaning and makes them special for understanding, completing, mastering, or investing time in it. Even if they never brag outwardly to another person, it still gives them that warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

If you claim that this does not apply to you, or doesn't apply you specifically for this game, then great.

I don't feel a personal stake - I'd assumed you were making a general statement but thought I'd comment on it from my perspective. Regarding the second paragraph, I believe it is difficult to take up a hobby and not feel any of those but they're also quite different things to bragging at that point, which is done to flaunt something for the purposes of improving social standing. I'd perhaps demur from the "makes them special" part, but in the sense that people expect some manner of emotional payoff/satisfaction from investing time in a hobby, which can come in the form of those things you mention? Yes, absolutely, and I think it'd be difficult to pursue a hobby while detaching completely from such emotions.