What are alternative healing options you want to see on a new healer class?

[ASkellington]

I'd rather SE actually put work in to making the existing 4 healers have identities instead of having 2 carbon copies of the first 2 they created before they make another healer.

AST could be a full regen healer. Why isn't it?

SGE was "advertised" as the healer who did damage so why isn't it the healer that heals by doing damage?

No. I don't want a 5th healer to steal ideas like SGE stole Noct sect until that's addressed or is slated to be addressed.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

What happened? What did they do so wrong that they got kicked?

Apologies for the half-troll and half-joke from my side. Sebazy & Recon answered it for you.

Now jokes aside... I'd love to see a healer:

• That are not magical by nature.
• Healers that heals by marking/cursing their target so that players who attack them leeches off HP to recover.
• A healer that's not just all about white, light, and pretty sparkles.

Or the good ol' response: I'd rather them improve what we already have because when managing 3 healers was already disastrous, I don't think I want to trust them with 2 extra.

[QooEr]

I'd rather SE actually put work in to making the existing 4 healers have identities instead of having 2 carbon copies of the first 2 they created before they make another healer.

AST could be a full regen healer. Why isn't it?

SGE was "advertised" as the healer who did damage so why isn't it the healer that heals by doing damage?

No. I don't want a 5th healer to steal ideas like SGE stole Noct sect until that's addressed or is slated to be addressed.

sge stealing noct sect wouldve been an improvement beause we would still have a noct sect playstyle (ogcd shield focused)
instead we got scholar.......... 2!

[Allegor]

I'd rather SE actually put work in to making the existing 4 healers have identities instead of having 2 carbon copies of the first 2 they created before they make another healer.

AST could be a full regen healer. Why isn't it?

SGE was "advertised" as the healer who did damage so why isn't it the healer that heals by doing damage?

No. I don't want a 5th healer to steal ideas like SGE stole Noct sect until that's addressed or is slated to be addressed.

Sadly, if normal content/roulettes are anything to go by, the average player has no idea what a regen even is, nor would they have the patience/confidence to rely on it. Though I do agree that would help AST differenciate more from WHM's almost completely burst heal kit.

I'm also cautiously optimistic *inhales copium* that because SGE is testing new waters, they wanted to see how it'd be received first, and by 7.0 the whole damage-to-heal will be expanded upon. I will officially quit if they just add more heals on top and call it a day.

[Kabooa]

Sadly, if normal content/roulettes are anything to go by, the average player has no idea what a regen even is, nor would they have the patience/confidence to rely on it. Though I do agree that would help AST differenciate more from WHM's almost completely burst heal kit.

I'm also cautiously optimistic *inhales copium* that because SGE is testing new waters, they wanted to see how it'd be received first, and by 7.0 the whole damage-to-heal will be expanded upon. I will officially quit if they just add more heals on top and call it a day.

I got some copium for you.

Scholar rework 7.0.

[Jirah]

I'm also cautiously optimistic *inhales copium* that because SGE is testing new waters, they wanted to see how it'd be received first, and by 7.0 the whole damage-to-heal will be expanded upon. I will officially quit if they just add more heals on top and call it a day.

Damage to heal is a terrible idea, that makes healer essentially pointless. And Kardia is just a phat regen promoting you to spam one skill while the other 3 don’t have to

[Shurrikhan]

I'd like to start instead by going back to the existing 4 healers and actually fleshing them out.

Frankly, we shouldn't even be discussing Time Mage as a DPS, for instance; that should be Astrologian already, as it was at its start. Double-down on the time-space theme.

Heck, double-down on and reinvigorate every initial theme of every healer. Some, like Conjury, may need to evolve over the job's levels (such as to better accommodate turning into purely generic light-flashes --err, White Magic), but that's okay so long as it doesn't strip the job of the depth it'd manage through those reinvigorated forms of past themes.

[rewd]

Damage to heal is a terrible idea, that makes healer essentially pointless. And Kardia is just a phat regen promoting you to spam one skill while the other 3 don’t have to

None of this makes sense.

[Shurrikhan]

Damage to heal is a terrible idea, that makes healer essentially pointless. And Kardia is just a phat regen promoting you to spam one skill while the other 3 don’t have to

None of this makes sense.

Kardia is literally just a set heal tick value, effectively per GCD, which then punishes you further for using any healing GCDs. It leads to, apart from the sole exception of Eukrasian Diagnosis, an even higher cost to using healing GCDs than any of the other three healers.

And, yes, locking healing behind damage (or otherwise making direct healing even less worthwhile) rarely produces good results, design wise. Since it's already a part of Sage, though, it might as well be expanded upon on that particular job, ideally by having Kardia instead scale with damage (or offensive potency) dealt and opening up its dps kit such that Kardia then becomes capable of banking and burst(ier) healing.

[QooEr]

I'd like to start instead by going back to the existing 4 healers and actually fleshing them out.

Frankly, we shouldn't even be discussing Time Mage as a DPS, for instance; that should be Astrologian already, as it was at its start. Double-down on the time-space theme.

Heck, double-down on and reinvigorate every initial theme of every healer. Some, like Conjury, may need to evolve over the job's levels (such as to better accommodate turning into purely generic light-flashes --err, White Magic), but that's okay so long as it doesn't strip the job of the depth it'd manage through those reinvigorated forms of past themes.

i miss time magic sooo much from ast. almost more than the old cards themselves. nothing was more satisfying than extending a bunch of regens along with lucid and lightspeed... i despise the new celestial oppositon.