What are alternative healing options you want to see on a new healer class?

[Absurdity]

a damage-based healer doesnt mean that damage translates into healing all the time, or even in the same way for every single spell. it doesnt have to be a 1:1 translation of damage done to healing done. any design problem can be fixed with enough creativity.

just off the top of my head, having more skills like zoe that purely increase healing would affect the healing output without caring for the damage output. having more variation of kardia healing effects would also help (like if e.dosis gave a shield like in pvp, if phlegma gave a regen, if toxicon did aoe healing, etc). the basis for making sage lean more into "healing with damage spells" is there, and it could work if they doubled down more on that aspect instead of copying scholar's homework.

What could also work is something like changing Physis 2 from simply applying a regen to instead spreading your Kardia to everyone in your party for X seconds.

This would also mean that there's now more thought involed in using Physis 2 since you want to get as many Dosis casts into the duration as possible and you could combine it with Soteria for even stronger aoe healing, adding more synergy between your different abilities.

[Recon1o6]

What could also work is something like changing Physis 2 from simply applying a regen to instead spreading your Kardia to everyone in your party for X seconds.

This would also mean that there's now more thought involed in using Physis 2 since you want to get as many Dosis casts into the duration as possible and you could combine it with Soteria for even stronger aoe healing, adding more interactions between your different abilities.

Zoe, make it zoe thats changed to this.
Physis is basically your main aoe heal when ixochole is on cd

[Absurdity]

Zoe, make it zoe thats changed to this.
Physis is basically your main aoe heal when ixochole is on cd

The reason I chose Physis is so more thought is involved in using it, right now you can basically just press the thing whenever there is aoe damage, it's very fire and forget... then again so are most oGCD heals.

[QooEr]

i dont think the specifics of a hypothetical should be scrutinized so much, but i agree with absurdity. making kardia aoe would feel so much better. having more skills like soteria that change what kardia does, but beyond just potency (like adding shields or mit or what have you) would also be really neat to couple with would-be physis.

sage in general is just a bunch of wasted potential

[WaxSw]

Ironically with Ast being a thing i would like to see a completely realized vision of a time based healer, fully centered around stuff like damage rewind, heal delays, damage mitigation/prevention or even delaying when the damage happens (idk how it would be balanced tho but a man can dream)

[Risvertasashi]

Ironically with Ast being a thing i would like to see a completely realized vision of a time based healer, fully centered around stuff like damage rewind, heal delays, damage mitigation/prevention or even delaying when the damage happens (idk how it would be balanced tho but a man can dream)

Pretty much Macrocosmos which uhm, has been a quite controversial thing this raid tier. lol

[WaxSw]

Pretty much Macrocosmos which uhm, has been a quite controversial thing this raid tier. lol

yeah, pretty much but I'd disagree about its controversy, better to have fun but imbalanced tools than boring balanced ones (especially when it only breaks a mechanic that can be skipped with dps)

I was thinking more into stuff like "absorbs all damage for 10s" ->gives a 15s buff-> "when buffs ends targets recieves 90% of the damage absorbed" kind of interactions which could be interesting when combined with heals that are also delayed by X amount of time but ofc balancing them could be a pain

[QooEr]

Ironically with Ast being a thing i would like to see a completely realized vision of a time based healer, fully centered around stuff like damage rewind, heal delays, damage mitigation/prevention or even delaying when the damage happens (idk how it would be balanced tho but a man can dream)

so much yes for time based healing... ast has most of what you mentioned already (macrocosmos for rewind, star, horoscope, exaltation for heal delay, CU for mitigation), theyre all just backloaded and mostly superfluous if content doesnt demand it so its often not noticed. i mean even regens on their own are also time based (healing over time), but i would like to see more time rewind or damage delay abilities, and to have back buff timer manipulations.

mitigation that turns damage taken into a dot thats easier to heal would also be neat

[SeverianLyonesse]

I want Green Mage to be a healer so we have a nice even split between BLM/RDM and WHM/GRM. I think it will have a mallet with the "focus" as the hammerhead, and be all about slamming AoE buffs/debuffs in the ground.

And on a less serious note, instead of AoEs, I wanna bop party members on head to give them buffs, as a kind of spiritual successor to FFXII measures.

[Doriann]

I'd rather see a full rework than new healers