Been seeing a lot of doomsaying in forums/in-game lately

[Kozh]

Like...I'm sorry, but if you're going to doompost, at least post about something relatively new, not things we've been dealing with since BEFORE the game got a heavy surge of players.

Maybe because those are the valid problems that the devs keep ignoring for years? Hence why the same criticisms keep appearing. For example: job homogenization, healer engagement being non-existent, housing problems, hrothgar still need fantasia to change hairstyles. It took them years to finally address dark knight, because people doesn't stop complaining about it.

And let's be honest here, if people came up with new things to complain about, they'll be hit with "omg, you're complaining just for the sake of complaining"

[RyuDragnier]

Maybe because those are the valid problems that the devs keep ignoring for years? Hence why the same criticisms keep appearing. For example: job homogenization, healer engagement being non-existent, housing problems, hrothgar still need fantasia to change hairstyles. It took them years to finally address dark knight, because people doesn't stop complaining about it.

And let's be honest here, if people came up with new things to complain about, they'll be hit with "omg, you're complaining just for the sake of complaining"

If the game has not died to these problems before now, it isn't dying to them now. There are legit problems, but a "OMG the game is dying because they won't give healers more damage options" is a completely stupid argument. That's not worth doomposting over...it's worth going, "Hey, give healers more stuff to do in downtime like how you gave AST cards to worry about!" Because again, if we've had this problem for more than 4 years, it isn't killing the game anytime soon, not when we've had a huge surge in players just last year.

[IdowhatIwant]

If the game has not died to these problems before now, it isn't dying to them now. There are legit problems, but a "OMG the game is dying because they won't give healers more damage options" is a completely stupid argument. That's not worth doomposting over...it's worth going, "Hey, give healers more stuff to do in downtime like how you gave AST cards to worry about!" Because again, if we've had this problem for more than 4 years, it isn't killing the game anytime soon, not when we've had a huge surge in players just last year.

The game is not dying, but it is heading towards a direction that will make the game or break the game soon, specially with as many frustrations as players have had with in the past couple of expansions.

And people want to say everything is fine because look at this big surge of new players that came last year. That surge had absolutely nothing to do with any decision or change that FFXIV made. That surge really just showed the power that social influencers have over there audiences. SE, Yoshi P, and the dev team did nothing to cause that random surge to happen, it happened through third party means.

[RyuDragnier]

The game is not dying, but it is heading towards a direction that will make the game or break the game soon, specially with as many frustrations as players have had with in the past couple of expansions.

I'm going to be honest, I have heard the "game will die" nonsense since ARR. I will not, nor will ever believe it until they pull something so idiotic that it will kill the game, because I've been here for 10 years and it still hasn't happened. There have been massive missteps yes, with the handling of Gordias Savage (almost killed the raiding community) and the handling of Eureka Pagos (the population for the relic grind dwindled to almost nothing within a week). But there has been nothing so widespread to where the game has almost died. Something may come some day from NEW content, but the problems we have had now for years won't.

[Darthgummibear]

I'm going to be honest, I have heard the "game will die" nonsense since ARR. I will not, nor will ever believe it until they pull something so idiotic that it will kill the game, because I've been here for 10 years and it still hasn't happened.

People always said the same thing about WoW, look where that got them. It would be completely foolish to ignore the current state of the game, the game's direction, problems since EW launch, etc. Whether or not you think the game is "dying", pretending that it doesn't have major issues helps nobody.