SE needs to do something about Bozja/CLL

[RotoLoto]

I was sadly not caught up with post=ShB content at EW launch, and I'd like to finish it before moving on. But CLL is a hard wall. Very few people queue for it, and it always ends the same way - everyone dies, loses mettle, and gives up.

SE needs to incentivize CLL like they incentivize MSQ roulette. Higher exp, mettle, poetics. Bonus points for making a quest-required deployment not cost mettle on a loss.

I know some people have said they've seen some groups do it with as few as 6 people but this has got to be the exception not the rule.

There's also now the fact that no one does cluster farming, it's all reapers and sages grinding fates for exp. Incentivize cluster farming with better rewards for people who are trying to level, so that the rest of us can actually unlock content/rewards.

[SherlottaEryut]

SE needs to incentivize CLL like they incentivize MSQ roulette. Higher exp, mettle, poetics. Bonus points for making a quest-required deployment not cost mettle on a loss.

I'd like to see it as its own daily roulette option, paired with Delubrum.

[aveyond-dreams]

This isn't the first time CLL has acted as a hard roadblock to Bozja content. CLL, DR, and Dalriada should have all been duty finder raids instead of raids within already instanced content.

That being said none of these raids are particularly difficult as long as you have read a guide or have a rough understanding of what are basic mechanics by that point in the game. Sadly for every competent player that queues for this sort of content long after its relevance, there are 10 more who think they can just wing it with no prior preparation and probably won't even bother to bring an essence.

As for cluster farming the only way to do it would probably be to drag the mobs into fates and force the reapers/sages to kill them. It's what others did when they couldn't find parties for cluster farming back in the old days and I imagine it would still work as long as there are enough people in the fate to cover the chaos.

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

Don't put it in any existing roulette, I really don't wanna do it. Make a new category for it if need be, but please leave it out of my normal roulettes.

[Duskane]

CLL and Dalriada need to give a huge amount worth of EXP for lvl 80s and lower
right now it gives like 3 CE worth of EXP but it takes up to 40 minute so people will just not que up for the duty

Zerging skirmishes is much more effective in both EXP and Time

[ForctyusGold]

I was sadly not caught up with post=ShB content at EW launch, and I'd like to finish it before moving on. But CLL is a hard wall. Very few people queue for it, and it always ends the same way - everyone dies, loses mettle, and gives up.

SE needs to incentivize CLL like they incentivize MSQ roulette. Higher exp, mettle, poetics. Bonus points for making a quest-required deployment not cost mettle on a loss.

I know some people have said they've seen some groups do it with as few as 6 people but this has got to be the exception not the rule.

There's also now the fact that no one does cluster farming, it's all reapers and sages grinding fates for exp. Incentivize cluster farming with better rewards for people who are trying to level, so that the rest of us can actually unlock content/rewards.

i guess it will ends as how Eureka is now. give it some time. avoid that thing or try. if anything, making PF for CLL or joining discord channels about SB relic could be really useful. dont lose hope o/ i would join with you if i get some free time and being on same world.

[Duskane]

I don't think it'll be same as eureka
Eureka had the super echo,challenge log and the the ability to buy boss items with crystals so it was possible to solo/pace the areas

Bozja has 3 large scale instances that need to be qued up for to progress the story

[ArcaneCarbuncle]

I don't think it'll be same as eureka
Eureka had the super echo,challenge log and the the ability to buy boss items with crystals so it was possible to solo/pace the areas

Bozja has 3 large scale instances that need to be qued up for to progress the story

Those "large scale instances" can be done with as few as 2 people each due to Bozjas own version of a 'super echo'.
All those instances need is better rewards, that's it.

[Duskane]

Those "large scale instances" can be done with as few as 2 people each due to Bozjas own version of a 'super echo'.
All those instances need is better rewards, that's it.

yes it can be done with 2 people but from a new player perspective you really think they are gonna be like "2 out of 48 people this will do"

[ArcaneCarbuncle]

yes it can be done with 2 people but from a new player perspective you really think they are gonna be like "2 out of 48 people this will do"

How is that different from Eureka though?
Do you think a new player is going to be aware how to solo that without any sort of guide?
Sorry, but it just seems like you're judging them by two different standards when they are pretty similar overall..