SAM players are quitting

[Karious]

To further add. If you want the SAM to be more than it is, to have more depth, a higher ceiling and to be more rewarding for reaching it.

That I can fully get behind and support, SAM is afterall supposed to be the BLM of melee, so I'm 100% behind changes that increase the skill ceiling and potential of the job at maximum optimisation.

But acting like Kaiten was the straw? That singular button? Come on folks...that's hardly some amazing ceiling when you got NINs going at their rotation like a concert pianist.

But I literally just want kaiten and 6.08 back. I don't want them to change a bunch more crap to make the class busier. It was perfect how it was.

[Ceridwen]

But I literally just want kaiten and 6.08 back. I don't want them to change a bunch more crap to make the class busier. It was perfect how it was.

It really was! It was elegant. Special. I love other classes for other things, quirks about them. Those are the things that make it more than numbers on a spreadsheet. If people don't care - well, then one would wonder why they're here. But I care - the art of it means more than - whatever it means to people like that. Maybe this is just a difference in personality types - but games have to be more than numbers to me or they're not games. They're just math. And I hated every second of math. So maybe they just look at those who care about the feel like we're crazy. But there's an emotional component in game play - granted, for some people more than others (clearly). If you make all the classes the same, or make them dull, well... that connection fades. It just does. Healing could be improved, admittedly. I'd like say - 3 glares than turn into a bigger hit - ANYTHING. But I love healing - I love the act of it, the focus on others, the feel of helping. So that emotional component remains. But if you're dps, you go into battle a certain way. Headlong, sneaky, standing back and blasting - and the Samurai had a very distinct method. It was so CLEAN. But it wasn't flat.

But that's what annoys me, I guess, about the troll-seeming posts. I don't trot around saying they're dull and unimaginative to care about potencies (I mean, I may THINK it, but I wouldn't be bothered to go posting about it, or find my way to a forum about it...) I want my class to be good - to be viable. (nodding sadly to my poor machinist, sitting unused on an alt...)

But anyway - the Samurai was in such a good place. If they needed to reduce buttons, there were better ways. If they had to alter what Kaiten does, fine - do that. But don't remove it entirely, and leave the class just puttering along, blandly. That's just life in a gray, depressing zone.