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  1. #151
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    I agree that it is a disease because it is rarely used the right way.

    Raid log data is meant to be used to identify what went wrong and who failed X mechanic.

    Instead the vast majority use it to inflate their fragile ego which leads them to become obsessed with meta and 0.1% optimal strats and combs just to boost their fragile ego which then leads to delusions like "omg you need optimal comb to clear savage, we cant have X class its suboptimal" which further degenerates into full on metaslaving resulting in the WoW community where sub optimal classes according to certain sites dont get invited or are considered bad even though a good player shines on them and does better than a metaslave on a FOTM

    Parsing ruins the community because tryhards with fragile ego start obsessing over that and spread their mentality.
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

  2. #152
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    i mean to be fair. if you get kicked because of a parser online they most likely kick you after a few tries anyway. they can see how you play and there is an enmity list which pretty much is a dmg list.

    i've never seen or heard from anyone i directly know about somene getting kicked because of a bad parser. yeah sure i hear about it a lot but that doesnt mean anything in this community. people love to push stuff like that in as many peoples faces as possible.

    its a tool nothing more.
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  3. #153
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    And you call me cheap xD

    Yes... my argument was that people should be stripped of their free will and become slaves with no other purpose than to help randos in PF clear.
    And again you put words in someone's mouth they never said.
    For someone that makes it seem as if they agree with people helping others at their own leisure or even not at all you came across as pretty worked up over people stating that they don't want to do it and even resorted to assuming some pretty bad things of people you don't know.

    Perhaps take your own advice and simply be a "chilled out competent gamer"?
    If you are okay with the fact that some people don't enjoy hopping into practice parties to help them clear then there's no reason to argue this much, correct?
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  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeiyaSoiya View Post
    isn't parses and logs used only for self-improvement? why is that information public by default? do people judge others based on their logs?
    We all judge people for far less consequential things and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Super Tiny, like... idk 300,000 views on Youtube between Misshapen chair and Asmongold.
    If you think your views are in direct alignment with that video then you need to swap the thesaurus for a dictionary sir
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  6. #156
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Now I understand why Chair didn't want bigger YouTubers watching his videos (he said so in the previous video)...
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  7. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    If you think your views are in direct alignment with that video then you need to swap the thesaurus for a dictionary sir
    They are. 100%, so there you have it. Unless you all of a sudden want to tell me what I'm thinking too. I also agree with Yoshi P that good players should help others out.
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  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asari5 View Post
    i mean to be fair. if you get kicked because of a parser online they most likely kick you after a few tries anyway. they can see how you play and there is an enmity list which pretty much is a dmg list.

    i've never seen or heard from anyone i directly know about somene getting kicked because of a bad parser. yeah sure i hear about it a lot but that doesnt mean anything in this community. people love to push stuff like that in as many peoples faces as possible.

    its a tool nothing more.
    The few times I have seen someone get kicked from a PF was after they repeadedly wiped the party on early mechanics when it was an "enrage to kill" party. It had nothing to do with dps, even though that was abysmal as well.
    It's valid in a parse party to get kicked for a bad parse because they heavily rely on everyone performing very well to the point of skipping mechanics and on person performing poorly can easily ruin it but I don't really see poorly performing players join parse parties anyway.
    It would not be okay in a party that simply aims to clear if the person's performance isn't the only thing that keeps them from clearing.
    But I really struggle to remember a single case of when someone was kicked from a PF because of a bad parse. At least on Light DC people are more likely to silently grit their teeth even if they know this person is going to make it harder.

    Enmity list doesn't work well for gauging dps though and it's easy to fall into the trap of blaming the wrong person unless it's something extremely obvious like the SAM being below the healers.
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  9. #159
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    I don’t think it’s a problem although without context like gear, what buffs are available, problems with the party etc it can vary wildly what numbers you are able to pull.

    I wish I could parse but I don’t play on computers so I just have to rely on my rotation/priority research and hope it’s good enough.

    You wouldn’t believe what kind of people join parties and press 1-3 buttons etc and have abysmal numbers though you can tell when things die extremely slow.
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  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    And again you put words in someone's mouth they never said.
    For someone that makes it seem as if they agree with people helping others at their own leisure or even not at all you came across as pretty worked up over people stating that they don't want to do it and even resorted to assuming some pretty bad things of people you don't know.

    Perhaps take your own advice and simply be a "chilled out competent gamer"?
    If you are okay with the fact that some people don't enjoy hopping into practice parties to help them clear then there's no reason to argue this much, correct?
    Unfortunately this is the last time I'll be addressing you. The reason you are struggling is because you misunderstood everything I said or think I'm worked up about anything.

    It's also impossible to have a meaningful conversation when someone thinks your argument is removing peoples free will... Like maybe that happens in some dark corners of the internet I guess? So nothing productive will come out of us talking.

    If it makes you feel better you are 100% right about everything. You're an amazing person worthy of praise.
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