FFXIV Biggest Disease....Parsing

[KageTokage]

parsing is not a disease.

Mental illness thinking parses matter is a disease.

I get the impression you didn't actually watch the video...or a lot of other people posting here in general.

It's less about the act of parsing itself and more about how the culture formed around it can be problematic though the title of the video is kind of deliberately misleading in that regard because the maker very well knows that saying or implying parsing is bad is an easy way to get people's attention.

[StriderShinryu]

Just how many times are the people insisting it's affecting casual content so much experiencing any mention of parsing in casual content?
I'm just genuinely curious here. Is this a DC thing? Is it common on NA DCs? Chaos? JP DCs? Because I rarely see it on Light.

Seriously, I see it so incredibly rarely when doing roulettes, spamming dungeons to level, farming alli raids and even when farming Ex that it sticks out like a sore thumb and I remember it quite clearly. And I'm doing a lot of DF, it's my go-to for leveling classes because I dislike PotD/ HoH/ fate spam.
And I'm not kidding that ever since EW release I haven't encountered a single mention of someone parsing, let alone using it against others, in chat there. Not a single one. The most I've seen was a tank saying that they'll pull smaller with a, and I quote, "sry things died slower than i thought" - which isn't even in the same ball park as mentioning parsers because all that takes is the average attention span of a housefly. And person in LotA asking if the healer is afk or why they are never casting anything and getting a "it's just an alli raid, not here to parse my dude" in return.

But reading through some posts I get the impression it's something people encounter every few duties in a very explicite way.

While I don't do higher end content myself, I can't say I've ever seen it come up in the more casual level content that I do (NA, Crystal DC here). Most runs of anything I do are completely smooth. Occasionally you will get a slower group or a clearly less experienced tank/healer but that just means the run is a couple minutes slower at worst. I pretty much never see the absolutely terrible don't know what an AOE is, Ice Mage, dead weight and proud of it player that some people complain about, and I also almost never see the completely toxic, elitist parsing everyone in a levelling roulette caricature either. The vast majority of players are perfectly capable at playing their jobs and don't mind being helpful and stopping to explain something if someone has a question. There's not a ton of random conversation but that's largely just because most people want to get in and do the content, not visit a social club. As is often the case, the forum opinion is not really indicative of actual in game experience.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Just how many times are the people insisting it's affecting casual content so much experiencing any mention of parsing in casual content?
I'm just genuinely curious here. Is this a DC thing? Is it common on NA DCs? Chaos? JP DCs? Because I rarely see it on Light.

Not that I can see aplenty in NA. Then again I've only been in the game for barely 2 years.

I (re)ran a lot of roulette & niche dungeons (BSF/Eureka and their raids), and there were only exactly 3 (THREE) times I saw another player incriminates themselves about the use of parse.

• "Man, you crazy damage RDM! You doing <insert number> DPS Things were melting!" --- some random NIN that I got paired with in Heroes' Gauntlet back in 5.3. They said this after the tank and healer left the duty while I wait for my loot.
• "How is he doing <insert number> DPS?!" --- some random MCH in Delubrum Reginae (Normal). They blurt this in party chat in the middle of Trinity Avowed encounter & this draws the attention of the party to the point they just stop talking altogether.
• "Yo this is parse run?"
  > "Yeah."
  "Count me in bruh." --- said by two particular random GNB and RPR in P1N when I was trying to win my weekly loot. Now this one I took my time after duty completion to report the GNB because everytime somebody did not heed the pull timer or they made 'mistake' they just run toward the wall, demanding a reset. I saw this behavior as a nuisance because I never signed up for a 'parse run' via regular DF queue. If I (probably) want any, I would make or join an existing PF. Then again, I avoid PF like plague so, whatever.

And person in LotA asking if the healer is afk or why they are never casting anything and getting a "it's just an alli raid, not here to parse my dude" in return.

This one however, do come up from time to time. And it's almost always whenever an individual groans or make a comment of how slow a duty was progressing. There's some odds that another player will just jump in to say "Bro chill, who parses <insert duty>?" or some other lines similar to that, it's as if it is a grave sin to make that comment from first place. Personally I had a similar experience just once in Heroes' Gauntlet with a BLM that did not know what they're doing. I've written this story in the older TfDF thread, but long story short:

Me (WAR):"Ah, stuffs are dying very slowly x_x"
BLM:"What's your problem?"
Me (WAR):"...None? I'm just expressing my honest thoughts."

[Fourbestintoner]

Parsing has only become a meme because savage has become so easy clearing is no longer an achievement, it means absolutely nothing, people cares a lot less about parses in ultimates, some do, but they are specials, parsing, doing better each reclear, is the only enjoyment most people now find in savage.
Everyone cared a lot less about parses in coil, gordias, midas, they only expected you to do the damage you were supposed to, but that's not parse autism, that's just asking you to not be deadweight.

[HisShadowX]

Anything the hardcore minority pushes should be reportable

[RobynDaBank]

Anything the hardcore minority pushes should be reportable

I can't wait for when your Ultimate-progressing alt is discovered. There was another troll similar to you sometime ago on the healer forums.

[technole]

The person who made the vid sure was Madge. Parsing is not a disease though, most people who make a big hoopla about it have personal problems. Like they don't like to be told they aren't good by a computer, or don't even do real endgame content, and really are people you don't want in a static too. Generally any decent group is going to run the abacus, it's meant to ensure success.

[KageTokage]

It's a disease in the sense that it makes many people play in a stupid and/or risky manner even outside of parsing groups for the sake of getting big numbers when it's not necessary.

I can't begin count the number of times I've wiped on savage reclears because of someone who just had to get one last GCD and/or positional off before trying to do a mechanic that will kill someone/everyone if they're not on time.

[RitsukoSonoda]

It's a disease in the sense that it makes many people play in a stupid and/or risky manner even outside of parsing groups for the sake of getting big numbers when it's not necessary.

I can't begin count the number of times I've wiped on savage reclears because of someone who just had to get one last GCD and/or positional off before trying to do a mechanic that will kill someone/everyone if they're not on time.

Then the healer doesn't heal them and they die and the healer says they need their MP to cast attack spells and using it to heal them would lower their DPS so the DPS needs to stop dying faster than 0MP cooldowns refresh... >.> lol

[Alaray]

Parsing's useful for personal improvement, even the video states this.

The "disease" is the social aspect of parsing, when people do the dumbest things in the world and wipe your clear, when people try to argue your grey isn't a "valid" clear when, frankly, boss is dead, it's also a criticism on how people take the numbers out of context and don't actually know how to read them, how a lot of people who care so much about Parsing actively complain about the little nuances in classes they don't like because they find it difficult to Do Good Parse on and when SE caves to public opinion, ruin the class for the people who Liked It; the people who Like every boss being a striking dummy that requires the brainpower of a dead hamster to optimize, the people who get so bent out of shape about balance of jobs they'd actively blacklist Paladins or Dancers from Savage prior to the buffs those classes received, and so on. How so many people put their entire sense of self-worth and self-validation for existing upon this Earth because they're on a scoreboard no one's going to remember in less than a year.

I mean, granted this isn't even related to SE and is a third party thing so w/e, but worth mentioning:

the most interesting thing there is in P3S to optimize is the adds phase.

Guess what doesn't count for rankings, lmao.