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  1. #841
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmpelioB View Post
    you are absolutely taking that phrase with wrong context.
    I beg to differ, I think the community as a whole has been taking that phrase way out of context.
    Honestly I personally think it came off to a lazy answer to a question.
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  2. #842
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    One has to question why they're made aware of a vocal minority demanding male characters to be granted the ability to use the infamous 'Karen' hairstyle
    The Karen hair was always unisex. Gaius' son was our in-game preview for it.
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  3. #843
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    The Karen hair was always unisex. Gaius' son was our in-game preview for it.
    This does nothing to remedy the fact that resources were wasted on a hair that is universally shunned by many male (and female) player characters instead of a style they would actually use. With so many other more prominent and popular hairstyles, it is a total mystery as to why the Karen cut was prioritized over them.
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  4. #844
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    But yeah I am not sure where they are getting some of this feedback. When did beast tribe become controversial enough for it to be changed? They made this sound like it was a complaint for some time. Where did the whole adventure plates idea come from? These are things I don't see here or in game so I guess reddit and twitter.
    I'd tentatively suggest it can be laid at the feet of the new localisation lead who took over some of the work from Koji back in Shadowbringers after he was moved to go and work on FFXVI:

    https://twitter.com/fabulafatua

    I suspect such influence due to this statement made during an interview a while back:



    Square Enix would probably do well with diversifying their localisation team to include people who pay attention to and gather feedback from a wider sample of players rather than those who simply flock to Twitter and are often far removed from regular players and their desires/opinions.

    Having witnessed WoW devolve into a strange purity spiral based on Twitter sphere 'logic' and 'necessary additions to the game' I must confess to being rather wary of a repeat where FFXIV is concerned.
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  5. #845
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    AmpelioB's Avatar
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    Kaimir Barone
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I beg to differ, I think the community as a whole has been taking that phrase way out of context.
    Honestly I personally think it came off to a lazy answer to a question.
    Lazy? can you please inform me which answer you are talking about by it's full context, just so i know we are talking about the same answer?
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  6. #846
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    This does nothing to remedy the fact that resources were wasted on a hair that is universally shunned by many male (and female) player characters instead of a style they would actually use. With so many other more prominent and popular hairstyles, it is a total mystery as to why the Karen cut was prioritized over them.
    But thats not what Theo was mewling about at all? If you're going to complain about vocal minorities strong-arming the devs into [checks notes] hairstyles you don't like, at least complain about the correct ones lol
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  7. #847
    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    But thats not what Theo was mewling about at all? If you're going to complain about vocal minorities strong-arming the devs into [checks notes] hairstyles you don't like, at least complain about the correct ones lol
    I mean it’s one of many examples though. Look at the influx of “gender neutral” hairstyles that are incredibly feminine. It’s not just the karen hair, there’s so many hairs now that have curls or bows etc. It’s pretty bad that it took this long just to get some facial hair lmao.
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  8. #848
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    It’s pretty bad that it took this long just to get some facial hair lmao.
    I still cannot BELIEVE that they just slapped stubble on copy of the midlander face, and then told people to fanta. Incredible.
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  9. #849
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    I still cannot BELIEVE that they just slapped stubble on copy of the midlander face, and then told people to fanta. Incredible.
    Given that back in 2019 it was acceptable to release a race that had to pay $10 to change their hairstyle, midlanders having to pay for their beards came as no surprise.
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  10. #850
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I mean it’s one of many examples though. Look at the influx of “gender neutral” hairstyles that are incredibly feminine. It’s not just the karen hair, there’s so many hairs now that have curls or bows etc. It’s pretty bad that it took this long just to get some facial hair lmao.
    And that is, again, a different complaint. The recent hairstyles have been pulled from the winners and runner ups of that old hair style contest. They have nothing to do with a vocal minority getting their way.
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