Getting abuse for DPS as a fairly new player - normal?

[Packetdancer]

How are you finding old 2017 topics lmao?

I think unintentional thread necromancy (as opposed to deliberate thread necromancy, which is definitely a thing) is probably via forum search, or Google search returning results in the forums. Search engines are not... great at biasing recent topics as higher-weighted results, sometimes.

(This is why I'll often post longer answers to something in a thread, even if sometimes the answer might seem overly detailed; it's in case someone ends up there three years later. Threads never truly die, they just lurk in search results waiting to spring on unsuspecting posters.)

[Ath192]

Lmao I also thought no one looks up their rotation at 70 now (ults) aside But yeah this is 5 years old.

[Maxilor]

Hmmm.. ok, I tap three swamps and play

[Broken_Wind]

You replied to a 5 year old post, I'm guessing level 70 at that time was max level, so not totally unreasonable

Damn necros

Not as ridiculous as it sounded, but still...I dont think people should be expected to go outside of game for information for non savage content, provided they do proper thinking about their skills on their own and are open to advice

There is a difference between knowing your basic rotation and knowing the perfect time to double weave and such. The latter isn't needed for dungeons and shouldn't be expected.

Now if you are going into content and being the equivalent of that THM that just alternates fire and ice spells, well thats a different story

[Evergrey]

Damn necros

Not as ridiculous as it sounded, but still...I dont think people should be expected to go outside of game for information for non savage content, provided they do proper thinking about their skills on their own and are open to advice

There is a difference between knowing your basic rotation and knowing the perfect time to double weave and such. The latter isn't needed for dungeons and shouldn't be expected.

Now if you are going into content and being the equivalent of that THM that just alternates fire and ice spells, well thats a different story

But if the DPS in fact was dreadful, in a dungeon nontheless, I would assume that they don't have a basic knowledge of a rotation.
Heck, just 2 days ago or so I did a trial where the tank kept spamming "Shield Lob" over and over a couple of times, while standing in melee range.

[Ronduwil]

Just did Kugane Castle and got a load of abuse from the tank telling me my DPS is dreadful and I need to learn to play my class. He apparently was using some sort of parse to know what everyones dps was.

I used to see this in WoW all the time. I've never once seen it in FFXIV in game. The TOS explicitly prohibits this behavior in random groups, and they will take action against this guy if you report him with a time and date for when this interaction occurred. There's an in-game template that you can fill in to make this happen.

[Ronduwil]

Please realise though that level 70 with several months of playing means you're not new anymore and actually expected to perform well on your basic class rotations and such. If you're unsure: Please look up guides, find BLMs to ask for advice, play around with your class on a dummy or something - but stop using that excuse in a level 70 dungeon.

Have you played Black Mage before? Their rotation completely changes every ten levels. It's not like playing Dragoon or Red Mage where level 70 adds a new button and/or finisher to your class. The Black Mage rotation is thoroughly confusing simply because it's ever-changing. It's not the new player's fault for not yet realizing that his level 60 Black Mage rotation isn't cutting it at level 70. I find it rather jarring that the norm for forum players seems to be to expect everyone else in the world to log into Discord and research the optimal way to play their job before venturing forth into group content. Then these same players complain that the game is too easy and boring when they play with others whose default play style is effectively cheating. Trial and error is half the fun of playing a new game. If you can't deal with players who are still in that phase of exploration, then consider queueing with pre-formed groups and avoiding random players.

[Doc_Seraph]

Kupo, if anybody throws shade about dps in a normal just brush it off and bless them for they are in need of a life. <3 kupo

[EnnCee]

1) You want to remove that link right now. Naming and shaming is not tolerated here.
2) With a few months of experience and a level 70 character you're not excatly "new" anymore, at least not in my book - I'll probably sound like a jerk too, but I expect someone at level 70 to know how to play
3) Not excatly normal - but we also dont know what happend here. Right now I dont want to judge over wether or not he was actually rude or just not suger coating that your dps was bad and you need to look into your class more.
4) Parsing and shaming someone for that is a reportable offense -> thats your way to go there.

Please realise though that level 70 with several months of playing means you're not new anymore and actually expected to perform well on your basic class rotations and such. If you're unsure: Please look up guides, find BLMs to ask for advice, play around with your class on a dummy or something - but stop using that excuse in a level 70 dungeon.

people learn at different rates, and some older gamers who did not actually grow up in the fully digital age will take longer to train muscle memory than many younger gamers, not even mentioning gamers with disabilities. you're off base here with your comment. BLM's, at this point in the game, have an exceedingly clumsy rotation, IMO. I'm amazed it still stands as a valid skill set.

you said for the OP to "stop using that excuse", but I challenge you to stop being so arrogant.

[BaconBits]

Damn, y'all really just walk up into a thread without checking post dates huh.