Getting abuse for DPS as a fairly new player - normal?

[Redeyeuk]

Well I've only been playing a few months, having just managed to get through the MSQ before SB arrived, and now just managed that.

Before SB changes I'd just got the hang of my rotation on BLM, so SB changes are giving me a few issues at the moment with having to try and relearn it.

Just did Kugane Castle and got a load of abuse from the tank telling me my DPS is dreadful and I need to learn to play my class. He apparently was using some sort of parse to know what everyones dps was.

Is this normal for new players to experience? To get a load of crap from people who've been playing a long time? I don't mind constructive tips to improve as I know I'm new to the game, but outright targetted abuse just makes me question investing any time into the character.

If this is the 'norm' then the ingame community is just as bad as WoW's and that was like a cesspool.

[Khaidal]

Not normal. That guy was a jerk.

[Oxmodial]

You can report people for harassing you about your damage numbers if they allude to the idea that they're using a parser. You can also check out https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Stone,_Sky,_Sea and work on your rotation if you aren't yet comfortable. In any case it's possible you were playing really poorly in which case I can understand where the tank is coming from but it sounds like he was being unreasonably rude.

[VargasVermillion]

Not really normal for anyone I know of, with maybe the exception of raid content but then again I play on a Japanese server so i wouldn't even know If i was being abused but I doubt i have been based on how quiet the chats usually are in standard dungeons. When I played on an NA server I got a lot of rude people when playing as tank and made mistakes but generally speaking I'd just laugh it off or ignore them. You could report them if it bothers you that much but that's really your call.

[Vidu]

1) You want to remove that link right now. Naming and shaming is not tolerated here.
2) With a few months of experience and a level 70 character you're not excatly "new" anymore, at least not in my book - I'll probably sound like a jerk too, but I expect someone at level 70 to know how to play
3) Not excatly normal - but we also dont know what happend here. Right now I dont want to judge over wether or not he was actually rude or just not suger coating that your dps was bad and you need to look into your class more.
4) Parsing and shaming someone for that is a reportable offense -> thats your way to go there.

Please realise though that level 70 with several months of playing means you're not new anymore and actually expected to perform well on your basic class rotations and such. If you're unsure: Please look up guides, find BLMs to ask for advice, play around with your class on a dummy or something - but stop using that excuse in a level 70 dungeon.

[JunseiKei]

Not sure how they could tell what your DPS is as all parsers are currently broken, as that is normal with every patch. Khaidal is right though, it's not normal, but you might still hear of stories from newer players about older players telling them what to do. That's usually done for friendly advice and not meant to demean.

[EdwinLi]

Ya I have ran into plenty of those people in DF for a long time.

They are the bane of Tank Job existance and are the reason why Tank players have been given certain bad reputation of being "needy".

Ignore him, and maybe blacklist him, as this encounter will only happen once in a while and most Tanks will be less jerks and more helpful.

However, just incase rememebr to mentally prepare yourself for Jerky Tanks because plenty of Jerk tier people seem to play Tank Jobs either to get things done faster or to feel "special" and "needed" by other people.

[Whiston]

LOL @ that profile.

No Gobwalker mount.
No Arrhidaeus mount.
No wind-up Faust.
Not even a wind-up Louisoix.

If you ever see him again, tell him his entire gaming experience is a joke.

[Nixxe]

Please realise though that level 70 with several months of playing means you're not new anymore

This is a pretty shallow way of thinking about it that neither accounts for the actual time /played nor what experience the person in question may or may not have and doesn't seem terribly useful. Skilled players are forged in the fires of serious endgame, where there is both performance feedback and incentive to improve. Everything up to that point, while not entirely irrelevant, counts for very little.

[Redeyeuk]

1) You want to remove that link right now. Naming and shaming is not tolerated here.
2) With a few months of experience and a level 70 character you're not excatly "new" anymore, at least not in my book - I'll probably sound like a jerk too, but I expect someone at level 70 to know how to play
3) Not excatly normal - but we also dont know what happend here. Right now I dont want to judge over wether or not he was actually rude or just not suger coating that your dps was bad and you need to look into your class more.
4) Parsing and shaming someone for that is a reportable offense -> thats your way to go there.

Please realise though that level 70 with several months of playing means you're not new anymore and actually expected to perform well on your basic class rotations and such. If you're unsure: Please look up guides, find BLMs to ask for advice, play around with your class on a dummy or something - but stop using that excuse in a level 70 dungeon.

1. Fine, removed.
2. A few months of leveling to get to 60, and then been doing SB since release to level over the last week only hitting 70 this morning. So that's hardly months with the new rotation.
3. Out of the blue before the last boss he singled me out saying my dps was dreadful and I should learn to play my class.
4. Have done.

By several months I mean approx 2.5 months since I started playing. All I've been doing since then is leveling to get up to speed, but apprently from your perspective that means I should know the new rotations for max dps on every new encounter instantly. Got you.



I was given tips while leveling to 60, and worked on what I was given and was reading up on the correct rotations to use and applying them. Those were always given in a constructive and helpful way.
Those roations seem to have gone out the window with SB so I'm having to relearn as I've been leveling and trying to find time to read up on the new rotations between work and leveling.