I'm back from Lost Ark

[Theodric]

Theodric if you're going to defend that crap in LA and attempt to compare it to XIV, at least use something actually comparable. Players selling wins isn't the same thing as LA selling players materials or progression or power. If you wanted to make a comparison at least use the Job or MSQ skips as those offer progression for money.

No dog in this fight, just jeez dude you used to make intelligent arguments.

I'm defending it on the basis that it's a fun game to play on the side and despite playing it on the side I managed to start 'late' and catch up without spending a single bit of real world money. There's long been many people attacking F2P games simply for being F2P but then you've got FFXIV being a subscription based game that leans on all manner of shady business practices that it conveniently gets given a free pass for.

As I see it, either people are truly against such business practices in general or it's solely tribalism at play.

Well need to put down 14 in whatever thread. It's pretty standard fare for some on this forum. Nothing new here move along. I'm sure all games have their good and bad none are perfect.

Ah, this again! Some people just care enough about FFXIV to view it through the lens of 'how can it improve' and 'how can it avoid the pitfalls of the competition' rather than 'this is teh best evar it can never be criticised'.