I'm back from Lost Ark

[SilverObi]

I'm defending it on the basis that it's a fun game to play on the side and despite playing it on the side I managed to start 'late' and catch up without spending a single bit of real world money ...

That comes off as an actual well-reasoned defense and I can get behind that stance, as I play other games that are predatory or have heavy 'pay for convenience' stuff pushed on the player through heavy grinds or obtuse systems and never spend money as well. I just didn't get why you brought up player-based RMT and tried to compare it like SE makes money off those transactions.

[Theodric]

That comes off as an actual well-reasoned defense and I can get behind that stance, as I play other games that are predatory or have heavy 'pay for convenience' stuff pushed on the player through heavy grinds or obtuse systems and never spend money as well. I just didn't get why you brought up player-based RMT and tried to compare it like SE makes money off those transactions.

It's because people with an addictive personality will resort to whatever means is available to them in order to be 'first'. Whether that is done officially or through backroom deals doesn't matter much - they'll find a way.

I just don't care enough about microtransactions when they're present in pretty much every MMO these days. I can show restraint and not pay extra and if other people fall prey to the desire? Well, its no skin off of my nose.

I just don't see much point in pretending as if FFXIV is some perfect angel on that front, especially with the CEO recently coming out with praise for NFT's and Yoshi-P shilling increasingly expensive merchandise each time a new Live Letter swings around.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I just don't see much point in pretending as if FFXIV is some perfect angel on that front,

We visit the same Forums Correct? Nobody thinks FFXIV is Some Perfect Angel on ANY Front

[Sqwall]

I came back from Doom Eternal.

Wow that combat....is NOTHING like FFXIV.

Cause it's a different game. so...

[Sqwall]

I came back from Gran Turismo 7, and wow FFXIV needs to take a page from a driving sim so it caters to everyone.

Sheesh

[Sqwall]

Man I just got back from Elden Ring! *points with thumb in direction of great game*

....FFXIV ... seriously.... please add dodge roll...

[Sqwall]

I could do this all day.....

Never played lost ark...and to be honest it could be fun?

But I ACTUALLY thought it was Diablo 3 at first glance when I saw someone playing it on Youtube.

Sounds .... meh tbh...but that's my opinion. That and I can't physically stomach games that make pay for BiS with pay to win models. *truth*

I'm not discounting the gameplay...but it's a game I have played a million times...

Diablo 2 over 3000+ hours And the resurrected Diablo 2 is an astoundingly faithful remaster. Even some of the same bugs that the 2000 version had. Like riding a bike you never forget. Had a blast with it.

Diablo 3 over 500 hours. This is basically Lost Ark imo. SOOOO....I have feel this scratches that itch. I literally have 12 Barbarian builds, 8 necro builds, 5 monk builds. As boring as the game is to play...it's incredibly deep with builds and gear.

Dungeon Siege 1,2,3. (Sadly admitting)
Titan Quest.
Dragon Age 1,2 and Inquisition (tactical view). Albeit slower combat, but still great gameplay. 2 was shite.

They're all the same....isometric action games are great....but they are a dime a dozen. Lost ark being free is where it loses me. Any "free" to play game ALWAYS has something to keep the player hooked, and nickel and dime them with worthless digital gear that offers ZERO benefit besides "this piece of gear is .9% stronger then my last piece of gear"

*yawn*

Modern Gaming sucks.

[Pells]

Man I just got back from Elden Ring! *points with thumb in direction of great game*

....FFXIV ... seriously.... please add dodge roll...

Imagine if Paladins got shield parry, too.

[Lily_Skye]

Man I just got back from Elden Ring! *points with thumb in direction of great game*

....FFXIV ... seriously.... please add dodge roll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtobKvbkbk8

[Midareyukki]

I came back from Gran Turismo 7, and wow FFXIV needs to take a page from a driving sim so it caters to everyone.

Sheesh

I mean, we do have the Regalia. Urianger also got a driver's license while in the First.