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  1. #701
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The fatigue goes both ways at this point, trust me. And I will admit that I'm not trying to hide it anymore.


    Unashamedly stealing your gif here, but if it works, it works.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  2. #702
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxus View Post
    If this game respected your time it wouldn't kill off jobs people have invested years in. And I don't know who told you what about Lost Ark, but it's actually less commitment than 14 after the initial hurdle.
    This "respect player's time" and yoshi saying to unsub and play other games is pretty disingenuous. If this was actually the case, there wouldn't be so many timegates and lockouts keeping you from doing things.
    Takes months to get geared from a Savage tier because of how gated their drops are, even if you don't get a drop you're locked from the week.
    Alliance raids do it too and their gear isn't even the best.
    Hell it takes like 2 months to complete the very end of the Nier quest for basically no reason, and honestly the entire housing system seems dedicated on keeping you resubbing so your house doesn't get destroyed while your "time is being respected", with the punishment being you have to go through the entire horrendous process of buying a house again, which is funny enough, now time gated again with 9 day cycles.

    But yeah your time is being respected.
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  3. #703
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    This "respect player's time" and yoshi saying to unsub and play other games is pretty disingenuous. If this was actually the case, there wouldn't be so many timegates and lockouts keeping you from doing things.
    Five words:
    "Player Housing & Demolition timer"
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  4. #704
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    Minarisweet's Avatar
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    Ara Amai
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    People are always comparing this game to wow and lost ark saying how these games don´t respect your time but never the games with better practices about it like destiny 2 or path of exile that while they are grindy themselves, you don't really have to put that much time into them weekly to be relevant and have fun with said games.
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  5. #705
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Minarisweet View Post
    People are always comparing this game to wow and lost ark saying how these games don´t respect your time but never the games with better practices about it like destiny 2 or path of exile that while they are grindy themselves, you don't really have to put that much time into them weekly to be relevant and have fun with said games.
    A lot of people with Lost Ark are on a hate bandwagon, and the complaints I've read are pretty ignorant of reality. How many weeks does it take to get geared up in this game on one job? I got the new 'Glavier' class to 1370 in one day, without spending real money on progression. People complaining about Lost Ark exaggerate the pay to win aspect, and simply don't like the perception a honing failure gives. It's largely surface level complaints. I can get through the tiers on a fresh character, in a few weeks. Here, I don't even have my full tomestone set on white mage. It takes like what... 7 weeks to upgrade your weapon?
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-25-2022 at 01:47 AM.
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  6. #706
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A lot of people with Lost Ark are on a hate bandwagon, and the complaints I've read are pretty ignorant of reality. How many weeks does it take to get geared up in this game on one job? I got the new 'Glavier' class to 1370 in one day, without spending real money on progression. People complaining about Lost Ark exaggerate the pay to win aspect, and simply don't like the perception a honing failure gives. It's largely surface level complaints. I can get through the tiers on a fresh character, in a few weeks. Here, I don't even have my full tomestone set on white mage. It takes like what... 7 weeks to upgrade your weapon?
    Yeah, Lost Ark is pretty generous when it comes to helping players catch up. I started a month after the game launched and between the rewards offered from quests and dungeons/raids I was able to gear up my character very easily without resorting to using the cash shop. The daily login rewards are so generous that I even ended up having spare materials sitting in my inventory.

    I can also take a break whenever I desire and not lose anything...which cannot be said of FFXIV. I get that different tastes exist but I think it's time FFXIV is viewed with a more critical eye because there are things that other MMO's are doing better.
    (22)

  7. #707
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    Shin96's Avatar
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Five words:
    "Player Housing & Demolition timer"
    Ah. Of course. I worked my ass off for a small house in Kugane only for them to take it away from me in a month because I didn't feel like subscribing. Respect your time my ass. Go play other games and come back to an empty plot. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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  8. #708
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I can also take a break whenever I desire and not lose anything...which cannot be said of FFXIV. I get that different tastes exist but I think it's time FFXIV is viewed with a more critical eye because there are things that other MMO's are doing better.
    Yep, I took a break from FF, and I am still weeks behind in gear. I can't even really gear up my RDM or tank, because I still need to finish up my tomestone set for WHM. I think FF has been able to get away with a lot for so long, because of there being no real competitors other than WoW, and it was generally doing things pretty well for a little while there, but if content remains on this same path, and even the patches have gotten slower, people will start looking elsewhere regardless. They will take that " go play something else", or "this game isn't for you" to heart, and just not come back.
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  9. #709
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    Oneiron Fuchs
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Look at healers. Look how long it took them to fix dark knight, something apparently they weren’t aware about whatsoever. So i would rather see people repeat things and keep it up so the devs can see it than let it be ignored yet again like so many other issues.
    This is something that grinds my gears! I know devs won‘t know about every little complain, but there have been some serious outcries from the community that were met with silence. And once people were seriously fed up with it devs acted all surprise. Either many complaints get ignored or there is some serious communication problem.
    I already see the devs act surprised once the healer situation gains enough traction.
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  10. #710
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    I already see the devs act surprised once the healer situation gains enough traction.
    Feigned surprise. There have been questions about the state of healers since SB. The ones that don't get ignored get round about non-answers and the "go play Ultimate" response which has become so infamous.
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