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  1. #721
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    CrownySuccubus's Avatar
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    Victoria Crowny
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Wanting to be able to travel between shards may have been inspired by her promise to Runar, but Y'shtola has made it clear multiple times that she wants to learn a method to do it moreso out of scientific discovery than merely getting back to her catboy crush.

    Besides that, the game was pretty clear that their options were either to return to the Source or die.
    (3)

  2. #722
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    Kisshu's Avatar
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    Nica Kisshu
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    [HB] That said, say what you will about XI but that game had SOUL
    A major thing about FFXI for me when I played (COP to mid WoTG) was that it felt wholly unique. Sure it had Cid, same named summons, tonberry and so on, but back then it didn't straight up lift models from major FF villans like Exdeath, Kefka and such.
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  3. #723
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    Y2K21's Avatar
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    Stellan Djt-dolja
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    A lot of people actually don't want the game to change, or 'thrive'. It's popularity brings in outsiders, WoW players, for example.
    This game is already 60% ex-WoW players though.
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  4. #724
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    Thorio's Avatar
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    Thorio Windborn
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    Hyperion
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Horrible job design? Rpr is awesome and Sge seems to be as well.
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  5. #725
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Mother Kos
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    Hyperion
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    This game is already 60% ex-WoW players though.
    *pauses from lovingly petting framed picture of Joyful Emerald Dracthyr*

    What do you mean ex-players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorio View Post
    Horrible job design? Rpr is awesome and Sge seems to be as well.
    I can't speak much for Sage as I capped it and moved on, but RPR is my baby. I adore this job. If I do Anything that isn't lvl 90 content the job feels like trying to go to the second floor when the stairs are missing every third step.

    Also just healers in general something something the reason why I went from a SCH main since ARR to a RPR.
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  6. #726
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorio View Post
    Horrible job design? Rpr is awesome and Sge seems to be as well.
    Eh reaper is a less APM melee machinist with no robot pet. It's pretty bad design.

    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    This game is already 60% ex-WoW players though.
    This is probably pretty true. There is like a WoW exodus every expansion. I came from WoW to this game back in ARR.
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  7. #727
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    WaxSw's Avatar
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    Waxillium Larede
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post

    I can't speak much for Sage as I capped it and moved on, but RPR is my baby. I adore this job. If I do Anything that isn't lvl 90 content the job feels like trying to go to the second floor when the stairs are missing every third step.

    Also just healers in general something something the reason why I went from a SCH main since ARR to a RPR.
    Sage is the same 1 button spam at the rest of the healers basically, peak cookie clicker design and bonus point for copying Sch homework "but change it so the teacher doesn't notice" (except it does)
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  8. #728
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    Raskbuck's Avatar
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    Rask Crowe
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yep, I have over 1k (granted a lot afk) hours in Lost Ark, over 1400 Ilvl on my sorceress. So I've been spending a lot of time in that. If I had things I really wanted to do in FF I'd be playing it more. Like, I've said before, burn out wasn't the reason I took a break. There just wasn't anything interesting for me to do. I think even Shadowbringers held my attention longer.

    I just want things to do in the game, and more things to strive for. The reward structure in FF is really lacking, in my opinion.There isn't really any lasting content, other than maybe CC currently, that keeps you playing, and it's taking so long for them to release even little things like Island Sanctuary.
    Whenever someone mentions the lack of rewarding activities in FFXIV, people are quick to come out of the woods to cite Yoshi-P saying almost a decade ago how we're meant to take breaks and play other games. While conveniently ignoring the fact that you need to keep an active sub to keep your house or your FC leadership, of course.

    Even when SE makes an attempt at innovating, it usually narrows down to the same old FATEs. The first iteration of the Diadem? FATEs. Eureka? NMs are just boss FATEs. Bozja? More FATEs. The same kind we've seen since ARR for the most part. Most of the open world is plagued by the same activities with a different skin, but if you strip that to the bone, we've been doing essentially the same thing for almost a decade now.

    But that's okay for some people, because we have G'raha Tia acting cute, and Y'shtola pulling out a scene straight out of Sailor Moon. Something something Emet-Selch, something something critically acclaimed.
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  9. #729
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    Laphicet's Avatar
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    Laphicet Melophicet
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorio View Post
    Horrible job design? Rpr is awesome and Sge seems to be as well.
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    How is that fun in any sense of the word? Spamming the same thing over and over and over and over and over again like I'm playing cookie clicker or some other boring idle game is not fun. And healers being all this is why I quit the role in the first place. And when I did have to go back to it in order to get the new dungeon gear for RP usage I was bitching and moaning the whole time... and got a hand cramp from it (that keeps flaring up every now and then, too, might be something more permanent at this point). At least I got to inform several people on the shit the director has said regarding healer and the general shitty state its in. And guess what? Most agreed with me and several admitted to being retired healers who quit for the same reason.
    Healing is boring and a miserable experience, and some pretty FX and pressing two buttons every 90 seconds don't magically fix that.
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    Last edited by Laphicet; 04-26-2022 at 06:07 AM.

  10. #730
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorio View Post
    Horrible job design? Rpr is awesome and Sge seems to be as well.
    I see you main GNB. We're going to have to take away everything you have that does damage except for 4 buttons, 1 will be an AoE, another will have a 45-60 second cool down.
    As for the rest... the rest will be mitigation, that does the exact same thing but looks different.

    Hope you enjoy your new class and join us healers on our way to increase accessibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Someone
    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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